[102083] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Fri Jan 25 02:10:26 2008
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: fred@cisco.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:33:20 PST."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:50:08 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:33:20 PST, Owen DeLong said:
> > And oddly enough, license plates on cars act *exactly the same way* - but
> > nobody seems at all surprised when police can work backwards from a plate
> > and come up with a suspect (who, admittedly, may not have been
> > involved if
> > the car was borrowed/stolen/etc).
> >
> In order to be using the license plate, you had to be physically
> present in the car.
"It wasn't me at the hit-and-run, my car was stolen last night"
"It wasn't me, my PC got zombied"
Like I said, they work *exactly the same way*.
But I'm giving up. We've got people here who work for companies that have
business models that boil down to "given an IP address, figure out who to
bill" - but although it identifies a person well enough to send them an
invoice, they think it isn't enough to identify them.
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