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RE: EU Official: IP Is Personal

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rod Beck)
Thu Jan 24 09:17:12 2008

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:49:40 -0000
From: "Rod Beck" <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>
To: "J. Oquendo" <sil@infiltrated.net>, "Nanog@Merit. Edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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I refer you to the following posting:

"Our University uses dynamic addressing but we are able to identify =
likely users
in response to the RIAA stuff.  There is a hidden step in here, at least =
for our
University, in the IP-to-Person mapping.  Our network essentially tracks =
the
IP-to-MAC relationship and the MAC-to-Owner relationship.  For us, its =
not the
IP that identifies a person, but the combination of IP plus Timestamp, =
which can
be used to walk our database and produce a system owner.

I'm guessing that Google et. al. have a similar multi-factor token set =
(IP, time,
cookie, etc) which allows them to map back to a "person"."

It is easy to back into people's identity.=20

Regards,=20

Roderick S. Beck
Director of European Sales
Hibernia Atlantic
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.=20
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com
rodbeck@erols.com
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.=20


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I refer you to the following posting:<BR>
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&quot;Our University uses dynamic addressing but we are able to identify =
likely users<BR>
in response to the RIAA stuff.&nbsp; There is a hidden step in here, at =
least for our<BR>
University, in the IP-to-Person mapping.&nbsp; Our network essentially =
tracks the<BR>
IP-to-MAC relationship and the MAC-to-Owner relationship.&nbsp; For us, =
its not the<BR>
IP that identifies a person, but the combination of IP plus Timestamp, =
which can<BR>
be used to walk our database and produce a system owner.<BR>
<BR>
I'm guessing that Google et. al. have a similar multi-factor token set =
(IP, time,<BR>
cookie, etc) which allows them to map back to a =
&quot;person&quot;.&quot;<BR>
<BR>
It is easy to back into people's identity.<BR>
<BR>
Regards,<BR>
<BR>
Roderick S. Beck<BR>
Director of European Sales<BR>
Hibernia Atlantic<BR>
1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris<BR>
<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com">http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com<=
/A><BR>
Wireless: 1-212-444-8829.<BR>
Landline: 33-1-4346-3209.<BR>
French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97.<BR>
AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth<BR>
rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com<BR>
rodbeck@erols.com<BR>
``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' =
Albert Einstein.<BR>
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