[101980] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Lessons from the AU model
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Mon Jan 21 22:55:38 2008
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:24:06 +1030
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Andy Davidson <andy@nosignal.org>
CC: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>, Martin Barry <marty@supine.com>,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <278521C6-B234-4316-BF87-424EE2115FA6@nosignal.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
>
> Here it stands for Multilateral peering, so in simplistic terms it
> means you peer with everyone at an exchange. A route server.
>
> My issue isn't that they exist (and in fact one network I maintain is
> a member of three MLPs.) The issue is compelling people to join the
> MLP. This dissuades large networks from joining in with the public
> peering game, and is probably harmful to the peering ecology of the
> region rather than helpful.
Given that three of the Gang of Four (Telstra/Reach, Optus/Singtel,
AAPT/Telecom NZ) (hey all encumbents!) won't peer in Oz, even with
Global Tier1s in Oz, it doesn't seem a big problem as the cost the GoF
charge to access their network is so high (Does that mean there are no
global tier 1s? :-)
In Australia basically almost everyone bar the GoF peers at the major
peering fabrics (PIPEx6, WAIXx1, Equinix Sydney) as it gives you such a
large chunk of the eyeballs and corporates outside of the GoF.
We peer with some of Telstra/Reaches upstreams in the US, but they won't
peer in Oz. They won't even peer with some very large global tier2s.
>
> Best wishes
> Andy
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