[101970] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cost per prefix [was: request for help w/ ATT and terminology]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Barak)
Mon Jan 21 18:27:38 2008
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:14:35 -0800 (PST)
From: David Barak <thegameiam@yahoo.com>
To: "jgreco@ns.sol.net" <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: "jlewis@lewis.org" <jlewis@lewis.org>, "nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <200801212256.m0LMuO7h022190@aurora.sol.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Wouldn't a reasonable approach be to take the sum of a 6500/msfc2 and a 2851, and assume that the routing computation could be offloaded?
The difficulty I have with this discussion is that the cost per prefix is zero until you need to change eigenstate, where there's a big cost, and then it goes back to zero again.
Because this isn't really all that new a problem, most vendors try not to make devices which have no headroom at all - so kit in the lower category seems to be qualitatively different.
-David
Joe Greco wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Joe Greco wrote:
>> > Given that the 3750 is not acceptable, then what exactly would you propose
>> > for a 48 port multigigabit router, capable of wirespeed, that does /not/
>> > hold a 300K+ prefix table? All we need is a model number and a price, and
>> > then we can substitute it into the pricing questions previously posed.
>> >
>> > If you disagree that the 7600/3bxl is a good choice for the fully-capable
>> > router, feel free to change that too. I don't really care, I just want to
>> > see the cost difference between DFZ-capable and non-DFZ-capable on stuff
>> > that have similar features in other ways.
>>
>> If using the 7600/3bxl as the cost basis of "the upgrade", you might as
>> well compare it to the 6500/7600/sup2 or sup3b. Either of these would
>> likely be what people buying the 3bxls are upgrading from, in some cases
>> just because of DFZ growth/bloat, in others, to get additional features
>> (IPv6).
> I see a minor problem with that in that if I don't actually need a chassis
> as large as the 6500/sup2, there's a bit of a hefty jump to get to that
> platform from potentially reasonable lesser platforms. If you're upgrading,
> though, it's essentially a discard of the sup2 (because you lose access to
> the chassis), so it may be fair to count the entire cost of the sup720-3bxl.
> Punching in 720-3bxl to Froogle comes up with $29K. Since there are other
> costs that may be associated with the upgrade (daughterboards, incompatible
> line cards, etc), let's just pretend $30K is a reasonable figure, unless
> someone else has Figures To Share.
> ... JG
> --
> Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
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