[101809] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Galbraith)
Fri Jan 18 17:56:03 2008
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:32:00 -0600
From: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9CNANOG=E2=80=9C?=" <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Jan 18, 2008 2:53 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
>
> IOW: Usage-based billing makes sense commercially, whether you are a
> propeller-head or a bell-head.
>
> And since Internet providers tend to be for-profit businesses, doing
> what "makes sense commercially" is kinda required.
>
> Then again, I Am Not An Isp, so what do I know? If you think things
> are out of whack, sounds like a business opportunity to me! You
> should be able to take your superior knowledge and make a killing
> implementing a proper network.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
>
I'll be honest, when this thread first started the first thing I thought was
"I should find out how my local municipal fiber co-op is coming along with
their buildout". For customers, going from unlimited to constrained is
always painful (vs the opposite).
My academic question is, where are costs killing consumer ISPs? Is it the
last mile? Transit? Under-capacity peering points?
-brandon
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On Jan 18, 2008 2:53 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <<a href="mailto:patrick@ianai.net">patrick@ianai.net</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br></div>IOW: Usage-based billing makes sense commercially, whether you are a<br>propeller-head or a bell-head.<br><br>And since Internet providers tend to be for-profit businesses, doing<br>what "makes sense commercially" is kinda required.
<br><br>Then again, I Am Not An Isp, so what do I know? If you think things<br>are out of whack, sounds like a business opportunity to me! You<br>should be able to take your superior knowledge and make a killing<br>implementing a proper network.
<br><br>--<br>TTFN,<br><font color="#888888">patrick<br><br></font></blockquote></div><br>I'll be honest, when this thread first started the first thing I thought was "I should find out how my local municipal fiber co-op is coming along with their buildout". For customers, going from unlimited to constrained is always painful (vs the opposite).
<br><br>My academic question is, where are costs killing consumer ISPs? Is it the last mile? Transit? Under-capacity peering points?<br><br>-brandon<br>
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