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Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Jan 17 17:42:12 2008

To: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>, michael.dillon@bt.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:29:37 GMT."
             <20080117212937.48cbf1d2@cs.columbia.edu>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:35:30 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:29:37 GMT, "Steven M. Bellovin" said:

> You don't always want to rely on the DNS for things like firewalls and
> ACLs.  DNS responses can be spoofed, the servers may not be available,
> etc.  (For some reason, I'm assuming that DNSsec isn't being used...)

Been there, done that, plus enough other "stupid DNS tricks" and "stupid
/etc/host tricks" to get me a fair supply of stories best told over a
pitcher of Guinness down at the Undergroud..

*Choosing* to hardcode rather than use DNS is one thing.  *Having* to hardcode
because the gear is "too stupid" (as Joe Greco put it) is however "Caveat
emptor" no matter how you slice it...


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