[101648] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Galbraith)
Tue Jan 15 04:14:53 2008
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:13:28 -0600
From: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>
To: "Adrian Chadd" <adrian@creative.net.au>
Cc: "Mark Smith" <nanog@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org>,
nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20080115085629.GO15773@skywalker.creative.net.au>
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On 1/15/08, Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au> wrote:
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>
> ffs, stop with the crappy analogies.
>
> The internet is like a badly designed commodity network. Built
> increasingly
> cheaper to deal with market pressures and unable to shift quickly to
> shifting
> technologies.
>
> Just like the telcos I recall everyone blasting when I was last actually
> involved in networks bigger than a university campus.
>
> Adrian
>
>
I think no matter what happens, it's going to be very interesting as Comcast
rolls out DOCSIS 3.0 (with speeds around 100-150Mbps possible), Verizon FIOS
expands it's offering (currently, you can get 50Mb/s down and 30Mb/sec up),
etc. If things are really as fragile as some have been saying, then the
bottlenecks will slowly make themselves apparent.
-brandon
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On 1/15/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Adrian Chadd</b> <<a href="mailto:adrian@creative.net.au">adrian@creative.net.au</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>ffs, stop with the crappy analogies.<br><br>The internet is like a badly designed commodity network. Built increasingly<br>cheaper to deal with market pressures and unable to shift quickly to shifting<br>technologies.
<br><br>Just like the telcos I recall everyone blasting when I was last actually<br>involved in networks bigger than a university campus.<br><br>Adrian<br><br></blockquote></div><br>I think no matter what happens, it's going to be very interesting as Comcast rolls out DOCSIS
3.0 (with speeds around 100-150Mbps possible), Verizon FIOS expands it's offering (currently, you can get 50Mb/s down and 30Mb/sec up), etc. If things are really as fragile as some have been saying, then the bottlenecks will slowly make themselves apparent.
<br><br>-brandon<br>
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