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Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Jan 9 15:21:34 2008

To: deepak@ai.net
Cc: nanog list <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:04:37 EST."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:18:40 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:04:37 EST, Deepak Jain said:
> Encouraging "encryption" of more protocols is an interesting way to 
> discourage this kind of shaping.

Dave Dittrich, on another list yesterday:

> They're not the only ones getting ready.  There are at least 5 anonymous
> P2P file sharing networks that use RSA or Diffie-Hellman key exchange
> to seed AES/Rijndael encryption at up to 256 bits. See:

> http://www.planetpeer.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

> You can only filter that which you can see, and there are many ways
> to make it hard to see what's going over the wire.

Bottom line - "they" can probably deploy the countermeasures faster than
"we" can deploy the shaping....

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