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Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Wed Dec 19 21:49:10 2007

From: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:46:23 GMT
To: drew.weaver@thenap.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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- -- Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com> wrote:

>Is this becoming a more common or less common practice as we slide
>ourselves into the last week of 2007? The reason I am wondering is we h=
ave
>noticed some 'issues' recently where correct info in the RIR causes ver=
y
>inefficient and sometimes annoying interaction with some of the world's=

>largest online applications (such as Google) lets say for example that =
a
>customer in India purchases dedicated server or Co-Location hosting at =
a
>HSP in the United States [very common]. So the RIR shows that the custo=
mer
>is in India, so when the customer interacts with any google application=
s
>google automatically directs this traffic to google.in (or the India
>version of whichever app)....  =

>

Welcome to my world. :-)

In pursuing investigations of criminal activity on the net, we
generally have to revert to good old fashioned elbow-grease (and
using your noodle) instead of automated geo-location tools for
exactly this reason -- they are more & more irrelevant for
determining the real location of an endpoint.

$.02,

- - ferg

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