[101036] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Is anyone aware of recent by-protocol traffic data in the public domain?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gordon Cook)
Tue Dec 4 10:00:42 2007
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From: Gordon Cook <cook@cookreport.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:55:35 -0500
To: "Alexander Harrowell" <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
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While KC is obviously best person to answer, my understanding is
that with the disapearence of ATT inside of SBC and the disappearance
of MCIUUNET inside of Verizon all their traffic that CAIDA used to
get was pulled. CAIDA gets it no longer because now it is
proprietary. IMO a bad situation
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On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote:
> Excellent public studies of Internet traffic by protocol exist from
> NSFNet times up to 2002 or 2003; we thank Odlyzko, Claffy et al for
> their work.
>
> However, has anyone else noticed a serious lack of data after the
> end of the studies summarised in "Longitudinal study of Internet
> traffic 1998-2003", Fomenkov, Keys, Moore & Claffy, 2003? (This
> has been discussed in the past, I think.) All that seems to be
> available is vendor handwaving of the sort Andy Odlyzko takes so
> much trouble to debunk; and that without any source data.
>
> Curiously, no-one seems to be funding this stuff in Europe, either.
>
> Alexander Harrowell
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</div><br><div><div>On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Alexander Harrowell =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Excellent public studies of Internet traffic by protocol =
exist from NSFNet times up to 2002 or 2003; we thank Odlyzko, Claffy et =
al for their work.<br><br>However, has anyone else noticed a serious =
lack of data after the end of the studies summarised in "Longitudinal =
study of Internet traffic 1998-2003",=A0 Fomenkov, Keys, Moore & =
Claffy, 2003? (This has been discussed in the past, I think.) All that =
seems to be available is vendor handwaving of the sort Andy Odlyzko =
takes so much trouble to debunk; and that without any source data. =
<br><br>Curiously, no-one seems to be funding this stuff in Europe, =
either.<br><br>Alexander =
Harrowell<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=
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