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Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Nov 27 18:24:23 2007

To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>,
        nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:04:23 +0100."
             <87ir3nv1rc.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:23:04 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:04:23 +0100, Florian Weimer said:
> There's also the issue that you can't reliably tell data (which,
> presumably, does not need to be signed) from code.

And "active content" is what happens when you *intentionally* blur the data/
code distinction.

Unfortunately, it's (a) wildly popular with users and (b) usually horribly done
from a security standpoint.

Unfortunately, "Web 2.0" with its "glue stuff together" approach looks like
it's just going to make things even worse, as clueless developers wedge stuff
together with dangerous interactions and synergies....


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