[100917] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: unwise filtering policy from cox.net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Jakma)
Thu Nov 22 04:16:01 2007
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:03:51 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Jakma <paul@clubi.ie>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, "'nanog@merit.edu'" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <18244.43800.887315.517969@world.std.com>
Mail-Copies-To: paul@jakma.org
Mail-Followup-To: paul@jakma.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Barry Shein wrote:
> xx@example.com
>
> is going to go to whatever MX example.com returns.
Yes, I'm aware.
> Sean's point was that you can't cause, e.g., eg@example.com alone
> to go to a server other than the same set of servers listed for
> AnythingElse@example.com.
Right, his point was that load or policy (" administrators may make
changes which affect all addresses) would cause a problem, and this
was, for some reason, due to routing of email addresses.
I took issue with the policy side of the comment. While it's
possible, it's got nowt to do with limitations in SMTP routing, it's
just operator error.
> If that (eg@example.com) overloads those servers, even if they're
> valiantly trying to pass the connection off to another machine, then
> you have to use some other method like eg@special.example.com or
> eg@other-domain.com and hope the clients will somehow use that tho for
> BIGCOMPANY there's a tendency to just bang in abuse@BIGCOMPANY.COM.
Right, I do understand that. There are obvious ways to horizontally
scale inbound mail using MX records and more, so the load issue
shouldn't be an issue for any given organisation. Least not more than
once.
However, I didn't comment on the load part of Sean's point.
> If you think I'm wrong (or Sean's wrong) even for a milisecond then
> trust me, this is going right over your head. Think again or email me
> privately and I'll try to be more clear.
I don't think this is over my head.
regards,
--
Paul Jakma paul@clubi.ie paul@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A
Fortune:
Love thy neighbor as thyself, but choose your neighborhood.
-- Louise Beal
