[100902] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: unwise filtering policy from cox.net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eliot Lear)
Wed Nov 21 07:18:07 2007
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:16:02 +0100
From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
To: Paul Ferguson <fergdawg@netzero.net>
CC: sean@donelan.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20071120.225142.15106.0@webmail30.vgs.untd.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Hey Paul,
> -- Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, goemon@anime.net wrote:
> >> <abuse@cox.net>
> >> (reason: 552 5.2.0 F77u1Y00B2ccxfT0000000 Message Refused. A
> URL in
> >> the content of your message was found on...uribl.com. For
> resolution do
> >> not contact Cox Communications, contact the block list
> administrators.)
> > An unfortunate limitation of the SMTP protocol is it initially only
> > looks at the right-hand side of an address when connecting to a
> > server to send e-mail, and not the left-hand side. [...]
>
> Sure, it's an "unfortunate limitation", but I hardly think it's
> an issue to hand-wave about and say "oh, well".
>
> Suggestions?
Given what Sean wrote goes to the core of how mail is routed, you'd
pretty much need to overhaul how MX records work to get around this one,
or perhaps go back to try to resurrect something like a DNS MB record,
but that presumes that the problem can't easily be solved in other
ways. Sean demonstrated one such way (move the high volume stuff to its
own domain).
Eliot
