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Re: Getting DSL at your datacenter for OOB

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Ulevitch)
Wed Nov 7 17:20:56 2007

Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:18:14 -0800
From: David Ulevitch <davidu@everydns.net>
To: chuck goolsbee <chucklist@forest.net>
CC: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <p0624080fc357e1640c73@[192.168.4.125]>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


chuck goolsbee wrote:
> 
  > I thought it would be cool to start up a little co-op in our 
building of
> copper cross-connects between various providers STRICTLY for OOB network 
> access. No sales involved, no revenue, strictly butt-saving OOB access. 
> I was actually getting traction until one ... for lack of a better term 
> "party pooper"... put the kibosh on the whole thing and ripped all the 
> wiring out before we had finished.
> 
> Several of us thought it was a fine idea. I imagine it *could* work in 
> certain buildings/environments with more enlightened facilities and 
> technical people around.

I've mentioned it to EQNX and PAIX numerous times that it would be a 
value-add at the right price point.  They don't seem interested.

Most replies offlist seem to recommend just dealing with the hell that 
is the incumbent carrier ... or buying 1mbps-committed transit from 
someone willing to do it.  The problem with that is the $300+ MRC that 
places like EQNX and PAIX will charge for the ethernet XC.

Some other replies offered the you-scratch-my-back-I-scratch-yours 
solution of throwing an XC to each other in facilities like the Westin 
or the MMR at 111 8th where XC fees aren't MRCs.

-David

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