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RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Fri Oct 26 11:05:15 2007

Reply-To: <frnkblk@iname.com>
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Paul Ferguson'" <fergdawg@netzero.net>, <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20071025.221835.4537.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:04:07 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Ah, but the reality is that you *think* you're paying for something, but the
operator never really intended to deliver it to you.

If anything, we need better full-disclosure, preferably voluntarily, and if
not that way, legislatively required.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Ferguson
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:19 AM
To: sean@donelan.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?


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- -- Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:

>When 5% of the users don't play nicely with the rest of the 95% of
>the users; how can network operators manage the network so every user
>receives a fair share of the network capacity?

I don't know if that's a fair argument.

If I'm sitting at the end of 8Mb/768k cable modem link, and paying
for it, I should damned well be able to use it anytime I want.

24x7.

As a consumer/customer, I say "Don't sell it it if you can't
deliver it." And not just "sometimes" or "only during foo time".

All the time. Regardless of my applications. I'm paying for it.

- - ferg

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--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
 ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/



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