[100521] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Hotmail/MSN postmaster contacts?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Lutvak)
Thu Oct 25 14:41:51 2007
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:38:01 -0700
From: "Eric Lutvak" <elutvak@rgbnetworks.com>
To: "Weier, Paul" <paul@ibsys.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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Paul,,
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I seem to remember Hotmail having issues with this type of mechanism..
You may want to do a search on "Hotmail Violating RFC"S" or something to
that effect to verify this.
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Have fun
ErIc
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________________________________
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Weier, Paul
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:28 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Hotmail/MSN postmaster contacts?
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Any Hotmail/MSN/Live postmasters around?
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My company sends subscription-based news emails -- which go to thousands
of users within Hotmail/MSN/Live. I appear to be getting blocked
recently after years of success.
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I have read the postmaster doco at MSN. I have put SPFs for SenderID
into many of my news station domains but it doesn't seem to be affecting
my success at delivery over other domains which do not yet have any such
configs. What am I missing to get un"blacklisted"? I can't seem to
find any human contact info on there.
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Any offline contact would be greatly appreciated.
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Apologies for the noise.
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Paul Weier paul@ibsys.com
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Violating RFC”S” or something to that effect to verify =
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owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Weier, Paul<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October =
25, 2007
11:28 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nanog@merit.edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Hotmail/MSN =
postmaster
contacts?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Any Hotmail/MSN/Live postmasters =
around?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My company sends subscription-based news emails =
--
which go to thousands of users within Hotmail/MSN/Live. =
I
appear to be getting blocked recently after years of =
success.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have read the postmaster doco at MSN. I have =
put
SPFs for SenderID into many of my news station domains but it =
doesn't seem
to be affecting my success at delivery over other domains which do not =
yet have
any such configs. What am I missing to get
un"blacklisted"? I can't seem to find any human contact =
info on
there.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial'>Any offline contact would be greatly =
appreciated.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Paul
Weier &n=
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paul@ibsys.com</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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