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Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Oct 23 20:18:01 2007

In-Reply-To: <05D53176-89DC-459C-8E2F-80CA508965D6@muada.com>
Cc: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>,
        Alain Durand <alain_durand@cable.comcast.com>,
        Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:35:27 -0700
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



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> 1. for IPv6-only hosts with modest needs: use an HTTPS proxy to  
> relay TCP connections
>
> 2. for hosts that are connected to IPv6-only networks but with  
> needs that can't be met by 1., obtain real IPv6 connectivity  
> tunneled on-demand over IPv6
>
> The advantage of 1. is that proxies and applications that can use  
> proxies are already in wide use. The advantage of 2. is that it  
> provides real IPv4 connectivity without compromises. Different  
> hosts (even on the same subnet) can have different IPv4  
> connectivity (NAT/no NAT, firewalled/unfirewalled) without having  
> to provision the complete path between the user and the edge of the  
> network specifically for that type of connectivity. And no lost  
> addresses for subnetting etc.

However, Number 2 does not solve the need for an IPv6 only host to  
talk to an IPv4 only host
for some purpose other than TCP things that can be fed through an  
HTTPS proxy.

Owen


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