[100435] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo)
Tue Oct 23 11:15:04 2007
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:34:00 -0400
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Reply-To: nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net
In-Reply-To: <20071023031342.2ca91dd0@cs.columbia.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:13:42AM +0000, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>
> According to
> http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/
> Comcast's blocking affects connections to non-Comcast users. This
> means that they're trying to manage their upstream connections, not the
> local loop.
Disagree - despite Comcast's size, there's more "Internet" outside of
them than on-net. Even with decent knobs, these devices are more blunt
instruments than anyone would like. See my previous comments regarding
allowing the on-net to on-net (or within region, or whatever BGP community
you use...) such that transfers with better RTT to complete quicker.
Everyone who is commenting on "This tracker/client does $foo to behave"
is missing the point - would one rather have the traffic snooped further
to see if such and such tracker/client is in use? And pay for the admin
overhead required to keep those non-automatable lists updated? Adrian
hit it on the head regarding the generations of kittens romping free...
While I expect end-users to miss the boat that providers use stat-mux
calculations to build and price their networks, I'm floored to see the
sentiment on NANOG. No edge provider of geographic scope/scale will
survive if 1:1 ratios were built and priced accordingly. Perhaps the
M&A colonialism era is coming to a close and smaller, regional nation-
states... erm last-mile providers will be the entities to grow with
satisfied customers?
Cheers,
Joe
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