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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Tue Oct 23 09:39:42 2007

In-Reply-To: <8C6CFC81-D4BB-4018-A485-D85F1849037E@multicasttech.com>
Cc: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, Bora Akyol <bora.akyol@aprius.com>,
        nanog@merit.edu
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:15 +0200
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On 23-okt-2007, at 14:52, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> I also would like to see a UDP scavenger service, for those  
> applications that generate lots of bits but
> can tolerate fairly high packet losses without replacement. (VLBI,  
> for example, can in principle live with 10% packet loss without  
> much pain.)

Note that this is slightly different from what I've been talking  
about: if a user trips the traffic volume limit and is put in the  
lower-than-normal traffic class, that user would still be using TCP  
apps so very high packet loss rates would be problematic here.

So I guess this makes three traffic classes.

> In this case, I suspect that a "worst effort" TOS class would be  
> honored across domains.

If not always by choice.  :-)

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