[100404] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adrian Chadd)
Tue Oct 23 01:10:19 2007
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:54:20 +0800
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@creative.net.au>
To: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@latt.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0710230030380.17870@clifden.donelan.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:
> > What hurt these access providers, particularly those in the
> >cable market, was a set of failed assumptions. The Internet became a
> >commodity, driven by this web thing. As a result, standards like DOCSIS
> >developed, and bandwidth was allocated, frequently in an asymmetric
> >fashion, to access customers. We have lots of asymmetric access
> >technologies, that are not well suited to some new applications.
>
> This doesn't explain why many universities, most with active, symmetric
> ethernet switches in residential dorms, have been deploying packet shaping
> technology for even longer than the cable companies. If the answer was
> as simple as upgrading everyone to 100Mbps symmetric ethernet, or even
> 1Gbps symmetric ethernet, then the university resnet's would be in great
> shape.
>
> Ok, maybe the greedy commercial folks screwed up and deserve what they
> got; but why are the nobel non-profit universities having the same
> problems?
because off the shell p2p stuff doesn't seem to pick up on internal
peers behind the great NAT that I've seen dorms behind? :P
Adrian
