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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo)
Sun Oct 21 21:50:03 2007

Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:43:28 -0400
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post@rsuc.gweep.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 12:55:08PM +1300, Simon Lyall wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > Its not just the greedy commercial ISPs, its also universities,
> > non-profits, government, co-op, etc networks.  It doesn't seem to matter
> > if the network has 100Mbps user connections or 128Kbps user connection,
> > they all seem to be having problems with these particular applications.
> 
> I'm going to call bullshit here.
> 
> The problem is that the customers are using too much traffic for what is
> provisioned. If those same customers were doing the same amount of traffic
> via NNTP, HTTP or FTP downloads then you would still be seeing the same
> problem and whining as much [1] .

There is significant protocol behavior differences between BT and FTP.
Hint - downloads are not the Problem.

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