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Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ross Vandegrift)
Fri Oct 19 18:43:49 2007

From: Ross Vandegrift <ross@kallisti.us>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:57:59 -0400
To: Clinton Popovich <crpopovi@nauticom.net>
Cc: "'John C. A. Bambenek'" <bambenek@gmail.com>,
        "'Mark Owen'" <mr.markowen@gmail.com>,
        "'Steven M. Bellovin'" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <03ab01c8128f$f711c7a0$e53556e0$@net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:38:11PM -0400, Clinton Popovich wrote:
> Its not that they are not permitted to control network traffic,  but they
> are impersonating the other server and I have a feeling there are a few laws
> that could fall under.  Like fraud for one.

Not to defend Comcast, but I think that this is a pretty far-fetched
idea.  Firewalls that send RSTs, nearly every IDP device, SYN-proxy
DDoS mitigation are just a few of the widely deployed technologies
that depend on the exact same forgeries.

It's all more-or-less the same principle of doing just enough forgery
to be able to interrupt a flow.  If you really want around that, IPSec
is always there for ya.

-- 
Ross Vandegrift
ross@kallisti.us

"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
	--St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

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