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Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Lewinski)
Fri Oct 19 18:05:38 2007

Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:51:52 -0600
From: Mike Lewinski <mike@rockynet.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <469858380710191300y7d411f4apd50a4440d360613e@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Mark Owen wrote:
> 
> On 10/19/07, *Mike Lewinski* <mike@rockynet.com 
> <mailto:mike@rockynet.com>> wrote:
> 
>     With the remaining 1% being Linux ISOs.
> 
>     I wonder what happens to these network police appliances (Sandvine,
>     Packeteer etc) when the P2Ps implement encryption and tunnel it all over
>     443/tcp?
> 
> 
> They'll just monitor for streams that utilize large portions of 
> bandwidth for extended amounts of time and throttle all. 

Which seems completely fair and reasonable to me, and likely won't 
require very expensive layer 4-7 packet shapers either. Plus they can 
just state that flat limit in their contract and NANOG will issue a 
collective yawn.

It just seems to me that the more Sandvine type applications are 
deployed, the sooner we will burn that bridge out from under us.

Then again, I saw the first Packeteer in action nearly 3 years ago and 
predicted it would only take 6-9 months before encryption became widespread.

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