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Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Lewinski)
Sat Oct 13 20:33:15 2007

Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:16:04 -0600
From: Mike Lewinski <mike@rockynet.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <87sl4eg0mt.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Florian Weimer wrote:

> Anyway, if you've got a customer account that was created with a stolen
> credit card, and you get complaints about activity on that account from
> various parties, and you still don't act, this shows a rather
> significant level of carelessness.  The other side of the story is that
> it takes months to get local police to forward the criminal complaint to
> state police, and state police to issue an order for seizure, even in
> areas of Germany where I thought we had pretty good LE coverage.

We also can't discount the possibility the "unresponsive" ISP is 
cooperating (willfully or not) with a police sting operation and can't 
respond in any way at all, for fear of jeopardizing it.

Though I still say a year is likely too long.

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