[100015] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Lewinski)
Fri Oct 12 17:05:34 2007
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:01:50 -0600
From: Mike Lewinski <mike@rockynet.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <87abqot768.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Florian Weimer wrote:
> I don't know what case prompted Ferg to post his message to NANOG, but I
> know that there are cases where failing to act is comparable to ignoring
> the screams for help of an "alleged" rape victim during the "alleged"
> crime.
I'm reminded of this story from earlier this year:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=568400
"For his effort, Van Iveren was charged with criminal trespass while
using a dangerous weapon, criminal damage to property while using a
dangerous weapon and disorderly conduct while using a dangerous weapon,
all criminal misdemeanors that carry a maximum total penalty of 33
months in jail."
On a side note, now that I've gotten back on -post.... I will say that
I've had pretty dismal experiences working with Law Enforcement over the
years as a service provider. When you have to explain to the Feds just
what IRC (for example) is, you've lost the battle :( After repeated
attempts at getting what seems to be blatant criminal activity
investigated, a provider might start to think "If Law Enforcement
doesn't care, why should I?" (I've avoided falling into that trap, but
it is frustrating to boot someone for illegal activities and see them go
on to pull the same thing at another provider even after providing
evidence to authorities.).