[867] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: Discuss Mandatory Dining at the UA Town Hall Meeting Tonight
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Bass)
Thu Oct 4 02:42:02 2001
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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 02:40:10 -0400
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<MIT-Talk@MIT.EDU>, Cameron Bass <cbass@MIT.EDU>
From: Cameron Bass <cbass@MIT.EDU>
To: MIT-Talk@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <200110040154.VAA25565@all-night-tool.mit.edu>
Peter,
I just read this, and you are now officially my new personal hero.
i love you.
Cameron
At 09:54 PM 10/3/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Niko sez:
>
>|> The problem with MIT protest is that it's always civilized; it's always
>|> reasonable; it always ends on time. People always go home and finish up
>|> their work and view the protest is closed. It can't be that way.
>
>|> We may be able to win a fight about the dot*, and we will almost certainly
>|> win concessions on this issue, just as we won a few concessions on the
>housing
>|> issue. If MIT students want the administration to get the idea that they
>|> are not to be ignored in the future, they have to demonstrate that they
>|> are not ignoreable! Ultimately, the administration knows that when all is
>|> said and done, we will make noise and then stop. We need to NOT stop;
>we need
>|> to make them rue the day they crossed such clever, vindictive individuals.
>
>|> God could I go on about this, and other speculation on the fate of
>|> student protest at mit. Suffice to say that I think simply being
>|> reasonable is not enough. I also think that MIT Administrators are very
>|> smart and dedicated people. I think they, like us, are working for a
>better
>|> MIT: I just think that their vision of what a better MIT is differs
>|> drastically from ours, and that this schism will always frustrate
>understanding
>|> between the two groups.
>
> Exactly. Administrators will continue to screw over the student as
>long as the worst thing that will happen to them as a result is that
>we'll tell them that we disagree. They'll keep coming up with
>proposals that will screw us over. Maybe we'll manage to stop a few
>of these proposals, but new ones will always keep coming.
>
> If we want this to stop, we have to stop being polite, and civil,
>and having orderly protests. We need to do more than give them well
>thought out reasons that their proposals are horrible, and circulate
>petitions. We need to make them very uncomfortable, we need to make
>their lives difficult, we need to hit them where it hurts. This means
>that people need to accept that they may get in trouble, and that they
>may miss some classes. Until students are willing to go this far,
>we're just going to keep getting shafted.
>
> Here are a few ideas:
>
> We can compose a list of administrators with a history of fucking
>students over, and circulate their names and pictures to all
>undergrads at MIT, along with a description of what they've done.
>Everytime one of us sees these administrators in the hallway, in an
>elevator, on the street, in a restaurant in Boston, or wherever, we
>need to tell the something like, "Hey, fuckwad, you are a maggot
>ridden sack of shit. You are ruining MIT. You are personally
>responsible for ruining this school, your worthless, scum-sucking
>whore."
>
> We can invade the offices of whichever adminstrators most deserve
>our ire, and refuse to let them in for days on end. This worked
>fairly well for the Harvard living wage folks.
>
> We can surround Chuck Vest's house one afternoon, and refuse to let
>him back in for several days. For administrators who don't live so
>conveniently close to campus, we can surround their car and refuse to
>let them drive home.
>
> We can take the list of admitted prefrosh, come April (or whenever
>they release it), and contact each and every prefrosh on there and try
>to convince them that MIT is a horrible school, and that they should
>go to Harvard or something.
>
> We can wait until the next time MIT has a bunch of multi-millionaire
>alumns gathered in some classroom to try to squeeze them for
>donations, and then burst into the room, en masse, ranting about how
>the MIT administration is fucking over the students and running the
>school into the ground, and tell them to not donate any money at all.
>
>|> niko
>
>-Peter Finin
