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Re: Racism and what-not

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sourav K. Mandal)
Sat May 5 00:40:08 2001

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"Wally <wally@sub-zero.mit.edu>" wrote:

> To say that you arrived at Objectivism empirically, rationally, and
> without 'coercion' from elders, isn't strictly true; like as not, you read
> the work of a single writer, liked what you read, saw correspondences to
> your own beliefs, read 'supporting' texts, immersed yourself in the
> culture, and the rhetorical and logical pieces fell into place for you.
> [...]

There is a substantial distinction here:  Ayn Rand never claimed to 
have access to information that no one else did, like Muhammed with 
Allah, and Christ (and various saints) with God.  Objectivism has one 
axiom (Aristotelian metaphysics), and everything is built up from 
there, open to examination.  For an informative and brief, albeit 
heavy, introduction, visit:

http://www.fullcontext.org/Objectivism/table.htm

I'll be happy to go into more detail off-list.

> [...]
> It's like that for many Christians, except laissez-faire capitalism in its
> pure form is a myth, the 'ideal man' is a myth, whereas many Christians
> believe that the nature of the world is *living proof* that God exists and
> can kick our collective ass.

The "ideal person" may not exist, but the concept does, and people 
should strive for it.  After all, we don't throw up our hands and give 
up on science when we have error bars greater than zero, do we?  Same 
deal with laissez-faire, which can more easily be implemented "purely" 
by being codified in law -- all that is required is support of this 
philosophy by those would be governed by it, which I concede is easier 
said than done.


Sourav


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