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Re: Big Rant: Political correctness, Aff. Action

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Aisha D Stroman)
Mon Apr 30 23:58:22 2001

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:57:59 -0400
From: Aisha D Stroman <adstrom@MIT.EDU>

May I suggest that someone speak to the Dean of Admissions on this matter?
Otherwise, everything is hearsay and suspicions.

Aisha


>> in response to anne's words about reading applications:
>> 
>> key word here is reading applications, not choosing.  correct me if i am wro
 *ng, but that mean you were reading essays and assigning a value to those essa
 *ys/apllications.  this means that how anne graded these essays/applications w
 *ent on record as probably an index number i would guess or a written evaluati
 *on.  perhaps i just misunderstood the wording but this is what it seems to me
 *.  this means that this has absolutely nothing to do with the process of sele
 *ction that (i cant remember his name) suggested about the piles and how appli
 *cants were chosen from them.  all this means is that the numbers are equally 
 *assigned for the people who choose to choose from.  it is in this process tha
 *t affirmative action takes place.  once again perhaps i just completely misun
 *derstood and you were in fact on the committee that made the final decision o
 *f who was getting in but it seemed like you were making a reference to giving
 * an index to the essay.  noone ever stated that an advantage was giv!
>> en here. 
>> 
>> as far as your list of 100 people and that everyone you thought wasnt  quali
 *fied didnt get in.  i would have to ask about how many on the lis that you th
 *ought were qualified didnt get in.  (going by your stats of your personal opi
 *nion and how many people get in here) out of the 100, you would think 85 were
 * qualified to make it but out of those 100, only 16 would get in.  basic stat
 *istics and some good ole commen sense would see its quite easy for you to mak
 *e the claim that noone got in that you didnt think was qualified.  the questi
 *on remains whether some people who didnt get in were more qualified than thos
 *e that did.  that was not answered at all (im not attacking you on this.  it'
 *s rather obvious such a judgement is almost impossible from someone who saw s
 *uch a limited part of the application)  
>> 
>> justin
>> 
>> "i will attack and question your argument with no pretense of authority"
>> aristotle

 Aisha Stroman
 MIT
 Computer Science and Engineering
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