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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniar Hussain)
Sun Apr 29 17:59:40 2001

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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:59:22 -0400
From: Daniar Hussain <dhussain@MIT.EDU>


Dear People of MIT:

First, I must admit I am not recieving the mailings from mit-talk or spa-discuss, since the traffic is so high, and I have no time to wade through the messages.  In any regard, it has recently come to my attention that a few Objectivists on these two lists were espousing the virtues of capitalism, the free-market, laisze-faire economics, yada yada yada.  (Once again, I do not mean to sound trife.  The argument is in the words :))

Let me offer my 2 cents, as the expression goes....


I think everyone would agree that *NOWHERE* in the world today, does (pure) capitalism exist.  Its just like (pure) communism -- it is a fairy-tale creation which has never been achieved anywhere in the world, and does not exist anywhere in the world.  [This should be a factual claim that only needs factual evidence to back it up.  Please note that I am assuming here that you agree with my fact, and am offering no factual evidence to back it up, nor pretending to do so.  For lots of factual evidence that this is true, just check any good historical account.]

Given this fact, Most (all?) of the wealth (ie: capital, real-estate, property, etc.) currently owned in the world was achieved under an Irrational, Unfaire, and Unequal System of Exploitation.

So, in order for us to have Pure Capitalism (the prized advocacy of that Ayn Rand and her followers), we must first have Pure Communism.  Thats right, you read me right.  Karl Marx in fact had it backwards -- communism leads to capitalism, not the other way around -- though his ultimate analysis perhaps may be correct ;-).  In order to reach a state of Pure Capitalism, we first need to have a Totalitarian Communist State that comes from a Proletariate Revolution.  After this totalitarian regime has destroyed all vestiges of inherited capital and status, then the totalitarian state can disband ("the state shall wither away"), thus leaving a completely Free and Equal Society in which the Blind Market Forces of Capitalism can finally start For the First Glorius Time!  Only after this occurs, can we hope for a pure capitalist society.

So, my dear Objectivists, if you want to see the kind of society you are envisioning, I suggest you join the American Communist Party (yes, it still exists).  After they stage a successful coup of the American government, destroy all current world civilization, and create a New World Order -- then, finally, you may re-join the Objectivist-Libertarian Party, and establish a Neo-New-World-Order based on Rational Market Allocation of Capital.


So long!
Dan Hussain


PS -- Btw, as I said, I'm not subscribed to mit-talk or spa-discuss, so I will be recieve any responses unless they are directed at me explicity. Thanks and have a nice day!

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