[304] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: Affirmative Action
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Prez H. Cannady)
Sat Apr 28 20:19:27 2001
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Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:18:31 -0400
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From: "Prez H. Cannady" <revprez@MIT.EDU>
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At 07:15 PM 4/28/01 , Aimee L Smith wrote
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>Always think twice before doing what a man asks you to do...
Forgive me, for I am buzzed....
In the words of A.T.
Trick: I don't normally do this...
Tyrone de Homejam, Ph.d of Love: Well, you doin it now, hoe!
The big problem is women always *think.* They never
stop. I mean, damn. I'm just tryin to get witchya,
and next thing I know the lady's bring down a load of
drama. If you don't git, den move on, baby.
>particularly when it is "relax." Your letter was on mark,
>Nnennia. The Tech has a history of being, shall we say,
>less than sensitive to issues concerning women...
Like Cosmo? Man, if we were anymore sensitive to women,
we'd subject ourselves to those damned tests. Let's
face it. We bout'dat. So give it up or move on. For
real, don't hate me cause I play the game so well.
Go Da Brat way...
>Mike should talk about relaxing... look how upset he got at
>the mere mention that he *looked* like a skin-head... I
>am sure he would take structural sexism against men
>(if it existed in this country) with calm and patience...
There's a difference between being mistaken for a
skin-head and a pimp. Skin-heads are sexually
frustrated males suffering from acute penis envy.
I'd take offense to it as well. Recognize.
>This "agitator" believes that actually the majority of men
>are *extremely* sexist based on a study that found 51-60% of
>college men said they would RAPE a woman if they knew they would not
>be caught.
I think I'm sexist because I'm the Pimp Daddy flippin
the 'caine, baby. S'all good, though. I don't want
to rape, 'cause that shit is wrong. I got enough
to look out for making sure I keep on the ladies' good
side. S'a cryin shame, but all good. On this, I
only got one thing to say to ladies trickin like
they want to have my baby. In the words of Hova:
"I strap the rubba on tighta..."
Rape is the oldest intergender crime in the book,
but I don't play that way. My dunns need to respect
they women, know how to tell the difference between
the Earth and a trick, and remember what momma told
us: always think twice.
>I used to subscribe to the "most men are nice"
>theory, then I read this and a few million other things...
Once again, something Aimee's read in a book or an
article launches her on a Green Party Holy Mission
to right wrongs.
Most men are nice for one reason. They can't
play like o'geez. When we bring the raw, it's
beyond real.
>Rape is the extreme expression of misogyny.
Nah. Rape is an extreme expression of frustration.
Hermitage is an extreme expression of misogyny.
>What lesser
>abuses are the remaining 40-49% ready to perpetrate?
None. We know the game, we know we got the law
on our backs, and we won't give you the satisfaction.
Gonna have to come up with some new tricks to catch
us, yo.
>Of course, many men and women *are* nice, we just tend
>to perpetuate the stereotpyes that are all around us
>inadvertently (even "leftie agitators" are not immune--
>we do not have 100% control over our thoughts and
>actions, much as we might like to think, I have also
>been programmed by my socialization to be sexist against women
>and have only partially unraveled that sickness...)
Now that there is a very long sentence, baby. But
I do have a question. How can you be sexist if you
a female and not a lesbian?
> Don't think
>people at MIT are "above all that."
Baby, I'm above all that and then some.
>(The best one I heard is
>"MIT students don't have time to rape." Deep thinking, really...)
I ain't got time to mess wit trife women, let alone commit
an act of rape. S'all love, though. I'm about treatin
my lady right. Backrubs, candle-lit dinners, fragrance-dipped
sheets and all that. For real, I might be old school, but
that's my game, s'aight?
>Please don't confuse denial with truth.
Why not?
>Many women fail to
>"see" sexism (although it catches up with a good portion
>eventually.)
Sounds like you playa-hatin, child. C'mon, yo.
If you don't get it, don't sweat it, knowledge?
>That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, that means
>they simply store experiences in the "individual jerk" category
>rather than recognizing the underlying structural bias
>that makes so many such jerks act in such a similar
>pattern...
What's up witchu and this word "jerk?"
>and it is even easier to "miss" things when you yourself
>are not the target, such as being a white man with a nice
>conservative hair cut...
Hey, don't diss the hair. We could go round for round,
so drop the hype.
>The govt sponsors racism.
One, two, three...laugh.
>70% of people on death row are people
>of color.
Yeah.
>Black people make up ~13% of drug users, 30% of
>those arrested for drug related infractions, 50% of those *convicted*
>for such infractions and 70% of those incarcerated.
So...you're trying to say that you're Black?
>If this isn't
>structural, govt sponsored bias, what is?
I don't know. The willful extermination of 6,000,000
Jews who Greens believe have no right to their homeland?
>Throw in the fact
>that Black males (whether American or foreign) are MUCH more
>likely to be summarily executed by police than another other group.
Tru this, but we do shoot back.
>Driving While Black, walking while Black all seem to be offenses
>in the US.
Oh, don't get me started on profiling.
>I would be curious to know what "issues" folks
>have had with mit police.
Yes, let's hear.
>They seem pretty relaxed to me, but
>then I am a white woman,
So you're not Black. So where's all this coming
from? Blackness ain't like smoking. You can't
catch it second-hand.
>so I don't pretend to be able to gauge
>their treatment of people who look different than me.
Good, so stop trying.
>In summary, Gonna have to go with Zhe on this one, my TRUST is also a bit
>worn thin... structural racism and sexism are alive and well.
There's a difference between Zhe's argument and yours,
one being that Zhe's argument actually resembles the
concerns of the Black community.
>Doing
>nothing to counter is AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR WHITE MEN.
That's not what Zhe argued, and it sure isn't something
I think.
>How
>does that make you feel, white men, to know that you may very well
>have gotten in to MIT and had many other opportunities opened to you
>on account of being white and/or male?
Billy Bob Cracker: "Hehehe...cool."
Do you honestly think that any white male got in here
without qualifications? This is going against EVERYTHING
Zhe said about the admissions process.
>I am certain I have benefited
>far more, and undeservedly, by being white, then through corrective measures
>towards me on account of being female.
I don't see you dropping out anytime soon.
>I am not ashamed to be white,
Good, I can't stand that shit.
>but I
>am ashamed to be the recipient of unfair advantage on account of
>the oppression dealt out to people of color...an injustice to one, is
>an injustice to all...
Then where's your Green Party activism? You should tear
up your transcript and drop out of the program. There's
plenty of vocational schools where white people are qualified
to go, seeing how dumb they are and unqualified to be
at MIT. Damn, it's almost a crime that white folks are
allowed to come here -- especially all those dumb white males.
>The gentlemen of 1/8 Cherokee decent makes me laugh.
I'm 75% Black. I guess I'm only class ave when it
comes to MIT qualifications.
>He feels it would be
>"unfair" to get into MIT on the basis of his ethnic background.
Wow, what a trip. Getting into a school based on your
qualification and experience rather than a movie-promoted
character stereotype based on your ethnicity. Fortunately,
Zhe explained this wasn't the case, so I guess we've
been spared the dumbest of the Montana Freemen.
>Was
>it "fair" of the white settlers to genocidally remove almost all of
>the indigenous people of North and South America, thereby CLEANSING
>the playing field, rather than tilting it?
Harsher times. You had to get yours, baby. Don't
blame progress for the fact that American Indians
were systematically wiped out because they decided
to fight wars they had no chance in hell of winning.
Might as well go pity Imperial Japan; they lost
big time, too.
I'm done for now. Time to get on wit my bee-eye.
Rev Prez
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