[2716] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: [Mit-talk] Upcoming UA Issue - Student Group Property Ownership
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Roberts)
Thu Oct 19 18:08:04 2006
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:07:38 -0400
From: "Jeff Roberts" <thejoker@alum.mit.edu>
To: "Jeremy H. Brown" <jhbrown@csail.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <87u021rokl.fsf@telluride.toybox.cambridge.ma.us>
Cc: mit-talk@mit.edu
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As an alum, I think that MIT should quit giving money to student
groups. Students obviously have no idea how to spend money properly.
I'm going to ensure that all my future donations to MIT come with the
stipulation that they cannot be spent by students.
MIT should hire some more Deans. Now THOSE guys know how to spend money right!
I'm pretty amazed how much more discussion there's been on this topic
than on the proposed GIR changes, which seem like they could be pretty
significant ... Jeff.
On 10/18/06, Jeremy H. Brown <jhbrown@csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> jhbrown@csail.mit.edu (Jeremy H. Brown) writes:
> > Oh, space. The ASA has, for a long time, been "in charge" of most of
> > the student office space and bulletin-board space, and has
> > periodically reallocated it. In practice, in my era, at least, all
> > they usually did was take office space away from defunct groups and
> > give it to groups that wanted space, and other such more-or-less
> > inoffensive changes. Even there there was often controversy, but
> > whatever. Every group knows that their office space is nominally lent
> > via the ASA; it's clear, and they should be under no illusion that
> > they "own" it, because it's spelled out.
>
> One final (you hope, anyhow) point: long-established groups like LSC,
> the Tech, WMBR, etc. have office space which is generally considered
> sacred when the ASA goes to reallocate offices. Most other groups are
> still jostling for space. I know when I was a student, the years that
> office space reallocation was coming up, the more politically-aware
> groups would work hard to put a number of members into the ASA in
> order to make sure their interests were thoroughly represented.
>
> I've also heard of people trying to do Finboard stacking, but I never
> knew enough about Finboard's procedures to know how well that worked.
>
> Anyhow, coming around to my actual point: If the UA gets the power to
> reposess resources that they deem under-utilized, eventually some
> wacky student group is going to stack that committee/wing/whatever,
> and go to town with it.
>
> Actually, that could be kind of fun. I'd love to see what the Campus
> Crusade for Cthulhu would do if they had control of the UA Committee
> for Taking Other People's Stuff.
>
> Jeremy
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