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Re: [Mit-talk] Upcoming UA Issue - Student Group Property Ownership

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Strider)
Wed Oct 18 12:30:07 2006

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:10:04 -0600
From: Strider <zachary.mcgregor-dorsey@colorado.edu>
To: Steven M Kelch <kelch@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62L.0610180534070.11985@ptolomaea.mit.edu>
Cc: mit-talk@mit.edu, Alexander J Werbos <awerbos@mit.edu>,
        "Jeremy H. Brown" <jhbrown@csail.mit.edu>, senior-house@mit.edu
Reply-To: zachary.mcgregor-dorsey@colorado.edu
Errors-To: mit-talk-bounces@mit.edu

Hey,

It seems to me that one aspect aspect of "adult behavior," as you call 
it, is the ability to look past the arbitrary and petty rules of 
dialogue your 8th grade English teacher laid down for you and actually 
attempt to understand what is being said.

Perhaps if Jeremy had written "burn in hell" only, you would start to 
have a point about a lack of contribution.  But that was certainly not 
so.  His message was clearly quite detailed and well thought out, and he 
provided not only his opinion on the subject, but some unbiased factual 
background to help the discussion as a whole.  I've seen a lot of 
discussion on these lists in my time and Jeremy's most recent letter 
seems to me to be a pretty strong example of a quality contribution.

You, on the other hand, find there to be some bad words and 
stock-phrase-attacks buried in the message and dismiss it out of hand.  
That, to me, is the childish.

As to your point about the article, it was just an example to show 
corruption in the upper ranks does occur.  Maybe it wasn't the best 
example, but it was not without point.  And as the sin of man is one of 
the few reliable things in this world, I don't think you can dismiss it 
for its age.

I too am a crufty alum with little sway in all this, but I would like to 
agree with Jeremy.  While I see how good-intentioned people would 
propose this reallocation of funds scheme, it'd be a first if it managed 
to stay well-intentioned.

Yours,
Zach S. McGregor-Dorsey



Steven M Kelch wrote:

> That was completely uncalled for. We are trying to have a legitimate
> discussion and you pull up a 13 year old piece of news on a
> completely different branch and function of the government, on a
> completely different topic, and in a completely different context. The
> money mentioned in the article doesn't come from the same source nor 
> is it
> controlled by the same body.
>
> If you disagree then say so; that's the point of a discussion. But 
> attacks
> like 'burn in hell' contribute absolutely nothing.
>
> I would expect adult behavior from an alum. MIT may have made you bitter
> but I feel your aggressions are misplaced.
>
> Steve
>

-- 
Strider
CU Math Dept.

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