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Re: [Mit-talk] Recommendations for new GIRs

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Seering)
Tue Oct 17 22:57:11 2006

In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62L.0610171024490.18126@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu>
From: Adam Seering <aseering@mit.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:56:35 -0400
To: grace <gkenney@mit.edu>
Cc: Tyson C McNulty <tmcnulty@mit.edu>, mit-talk@mit.edu,
        Tim Abbott <tabbott@mit.edu>, random-hall-talk@mit.edu,
        ec-discuss@mit.edu, Mike Barrett <radmike@gmail.com>,
        Laura Nicholson <lnicks@mit.edu>
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On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:41 AM, grace wrote:

> i was wondering this as well.  today's tech says  "five pilot  
> project-based [science GIR] subjects and three freshman experience  
> HASS subjects are under development and will be offered in the  
> coming semesters, according to margaret s. enders, associate dean  
> of faculty." this rather makes it sound like the fix is already in  
> - is it even possible to make major structural changes [e.g.  
> ditching the 5/6 science GIR structure or the frosh hass class]?

The fix isn't locked in yet; it takes more than a year to build a  
major core course, so they have to start running trials now just in  
case.

Then again, a lot of people (including the majority of the students  
that this committee did talk with) are in favor of this plan; if you  
want any chance at change at this stage, go get a bunch of people  
together and go make a strong, well-reasoned case to someone on the  
committee responsible for this report.  If you're lazy and just sit  
here and e-mail people (like me!), of course nothing's going to happen.

As I understand it:  The proposal is under review for the next 5 to 6  
weeks; people are taking suggestions and making changes.  After that,  
the proposal gets put to a faculty vote, and it's accepted or  
rejected (probably accepted) as-is.  After that, MIT spends another  
year or so figuring out how to implement everything it just  
approved.  After that, the changes officially take effect.


By the way: There have been several voices against the HASS changes,  
but none in favor of them.  Who here supports them?; I'm curious to  
hear that viewpoint.

Adam
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