[2625] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: [Mit-talk] Upcoming UA Issue - Student Group Property Ownership
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jacob Faber)
Tue Oct 17 10:46:29 2006
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:43:50 -0400
From: "Jacob Faber" <jacob.faber@gmail.com>
To: "John Hawkinson" <jhawk@mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20061017143752.GV25828@multics.mit.edu>
Cc: mit-talk@mit.edu
Errors-To: mit-talk-bounces@mit.edu
Yes, I like "ultiamtely the institute purchases it" better, but money
wasted is money wasted. I also agree that past funding should be
grandfathered.
The question is really about how the UA enforces the "conditions" we
agree they should attach to funding. While it can be a pain to get
things done at times, there needs to be some accountability - of the
student group and of the UA.
On 10/17/06, John Hawkinson <jhawk@mit.edu> wrote:
> Jacob Faber <jacob.faber@gmail.com> wrote on Tue, 17 Oct 2006
> at 10:33:55 -0400 in <e9cc53d60610170733ie68712do6948f43607c4b77c@mail.gmail.com>:
>
> > Alex brings up good points. It's really about accountability. I was
> > never on finboard, but anecdotally, I can say there is misuse of
> > funds. Groups buy the same things year in and year out, and it's a
> > waste of money. Also, inventory "disappears". It might be a pain,
> > but the UA should have better records of group spending and inventory
> > because ultimately, it's the UA who purchases it.
>
> The question of student group property is a complex one, but
> certainly it is not "ultimately the UA who purchases it."
>
> Many student groups purchase property with non-UA (and non-GSC) funds.
> And *most* student groups do so with a combination (sorting that out
> would be near-impossible).
>
> On some level, it may be "ultimately the Institute who purchases it."
>
> I strongly agree with Adam, though. The UA can attach conditions to
> money in the future (I think this is probably bad policy, but is
> at least reasoanble), but to do so to monies issued in the past
> is grossly insulting.
>
> There is already enough regluation, and it is hard enough for student
> groups to get stuff done. Adding even more would be painful.
>
> --jhawk
>
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Jacob W. Faber
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