[1345] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: cnn and FOC
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laura G Dean)
Mon Aug 26 14:08:08 2002
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:41:33 -0400
From: Laura G Dean <lgdean@MIT.EDU>
To: MIT-Talk@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:17:03 EDT."
<200208261717.NAA17179@scrubbing-bubbles.mit.edu>
On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:17:03 EDT, Ellen Kranzer wrote:
> Laura Dean writes:
> > (It's hard even to tell whether it was actually hazing or was
> >voluntary, though there are other issues, like DON'T LEAVE THE DRUNK
> >PERSON ALONE ON HIS BACK.)
>
> The fact that someone participated voluntarily doesn't mean that an
> incident wasn't hazing.
I agree, but it's possible he could have decided to drink without the
drinking being part of the event (whatever it was) that was going on.
So "voluntary" was a poor word choice. I'm not sure what word I
should have chosen instead; probably just an entirely different
sentence altogether.
I do agree that things can be hazing without being required, but just
being encouraged/expected*. But AFAIK (and I could be mistaken),
there hasn't been any definitive statement of what actually happened
there, and the news reports seem to differ from each other.
And I certainly think it may have been hazing... I just feel like
I don't actually know.
Laura
*yes, I know that means house meetings are hazing by some definitions;
the fact that they're also required for upperclassmen is, however, a
good indication that they're not (intended to be) detrimental or
demeaning
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