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Re: Objectivisim or Facism?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Hardy)
Fri Apr 20 15:14:36 2001

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        Aimee L Smith <alsmith@MIT.EDU> wrote:

> I stopped by the objectivist lecture this evening.

  [ ..... ]

> the speaker

  [ ..... ]

> cut off the questioners who disagreed,


        I was there.  That is NOT true.  What happened is that he
cut off a woman (Aimee Smith, perhaps?) who was making a LONG, LONG,
LONG speech of her own under PRETENSE of being a questioner.  To
_questioners_ who disagreed, he was polite, but that woman was NOT
a _questioner_.  She wanted to make her own speech instead.


> the speaker informed us that he had paid for the podium.  What I
> don't get is why they didn't inform us that is was an infomercial
> from the get-go.


        Because EVERYBODY KNOWS that ALL public speeches are
"infomercials."  Sometimes I attend the applied mathematics colloquium
to listen to an invited speaker speak on applied mathematics for an
hour.  I don't expect it to be an occasion for me to stand up and
hold forth at length on any opinion of mine that I think the public
should know about.  I would be obnoxious and unreasonable if I did.
That woman who behaved that way was obnoxious and unreasonable.  I 
think the auditorium was paid for by the group that invited the
speaker.  Only the naive do not know that that's how it normally works.


> he claims the environmentalists,

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> are the fascists.


         He said most people who consider themselves environmentalists
are well-intentioned and want clean air, clean water, etc., but don't
understand that the consistent leaders of environmentalism are
totalitarians (and he _did_ also use the word "fascists") who want
to preserve the natural environment, NOT so that it can serve human
needs, but as an end-in-itself INDEPENDENT of human needs.  (I don't
know about most of them, so I cannot say I agree, but I am inclined
to agree that Ralph Nader is a totalitarian.)

         Mike Hardy

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