[1085] in Discussion of MIT-community interests
Re: So That's Your Price?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kelly Zimmerman)
Wed Mar 13 03:37:58 2002
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 03:33:22 -0500
From: Kelly Zimmerman <knz@MIT.EDU>
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At 03:18 AM 3/13/02 -0500, Richard Tibbetts wrote:
>Sarcasm is cheap. Why bother?
It's effective. You wouldn't have picked up on the sarcasm if you hadn't=20
had an inkling of thoughts that resembled my own.
>Some example, any example, would really drive this point home. Thus
>far, all of the anti-Rhett speeches I have seen have left out actual
>examples of the way in which past UA Presidents have been
>significantly better.
I'm not doing your research for you. That's up to the responsible voter.=20
I'm not part of any campaign, I'm not getting paid, and I have no=20
obligation to you to prove why other presidents are better. I would assume=
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that pointing out what I feel is erroneous in your behavior should be=20
enough. No one's holding your hand, big boy.
>I think that most people, like myself, are aware of the position, what
>someone in that position can do, and what they have done. Most
>importantly, it seems that no one in that position has done much of
>anything (at least not since McGann, and his actions were limitted).
>Worst case Rhett gets in there and makes a complete mockery of the UA.
>I think thats better than people picking up another resume turd and
>another excuse to practice what they learned from Effective Meetings
>magazine.
And Rhett gets a nice inflated ego, and something to perhaps validate his=20
resum=E9. No offense to Rhett. I'm just speculating on this point.
>AFAICT its money that once belonged to some alum, who gave it to the
>person who wins the UA president. So its not mine or yours. At least
>not until Rhett gives me my ten dollars. I bet you're not getting ten
>dollars.
I'm not a whore-- and I certainly wouldn't sell myself for such a low=20
price. If I got $10 out of this deal, I'd be ashamed. If anything, give me=
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$10 for the work I've done with the UA. But I won't take cheap gifts. It's=
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the undergraduates' money until it's spent on anyone else. And spending it=
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on one eighth of the undergraduate population would count as "anyone else".
>Not blinded by the dollar sign. Its ten dollars. Its not really that
>much money. Blinded by the joy of watching Rhett annoy people like you.
People like me? Should I pretend to be offended by that? Because that=20
seemed like an attempt at a personal blow (which I would consider more=20
cheap than sarcasm)... Perhaps if I were also a senior, about to graduate,=
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and as self-centered as some, I would also care more about $10/annoying=20
people like myself than screwing over 7/8ths of the undergraduate=
population.
>Maybe Rhett should start soliciting donations from people who would
>like to see him buy more than 500 votes. Though it doesn't seem like
>he is going to run out of money any time soon.
I still don't see how this isn't considered bribery, and how it's allowed.=
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But I suppose that's not for me to decide...
>tibbetts
I'd like to thank you, Richard, for copying my entire e-mail so that the=20
moderated MIT-Talk list, who has not yet received my first e-mail, can read=
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it along with your comments.
I lied. I'm not in bed yet. But now I'm really going to sleep.
--Kelly ;)
Kelly N. Zimmerman
knz@mit.edu
(617) 225-7315
http://web.mit.edu/knz/www/
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