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Re: athena message retrieval

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Hudson)
Fri Nov 16 10:09:33 2001

Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:09:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>
To: Marc Horowitz <marc@mit.edu>
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I'm moving this conversation to bug-sipb.  It started on sipb.

Marc wrote:
> I wonder if pine-imap should be the default, and pine-pop should do
> what pine does now.

Certainly a lot of users seem to get hurt by the current default, and
making pine-imap the default would certainly smooth the transition to pine
being in the Athena release.  But, of course, it would just mean dealing
with the surprise factor now instead of later.

For reference, here was my plan for putting pine in the release without
surprising users too much.  A number of details would have to be modified
for Marc's proposal, of course.  The full transition plan is in
release-77 [2941].

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(2) The "pine" program

This is a hard problem, but I think a similar approach to (1) will do
adequately.  A front-end script to pine will notice if you already
have a .pinerc, and we will have to have a flag dotfile
(.athena-pine-noask, perhaps) for users of the Athena pine.  For users
who have a .pinerc and don't have the flag dotfile, the front end
script will say something like:

  The Athena release now contains the Pine program.  By default, it
  behaves somewhat differently from the SIPB installation of pine you
  have probably used in the past; the Athena version stores your saved
  mail on your Post Office server where it can be accessed from Mac
  and PC clients as well as from Athena.  If you prefer, you can
  continue to use the SIPB version of pine.

    1. Let me try the Athena version of pine, but ask me again next time
    2. Let me use the SIPB pine for now, but ask me again next time
    3. I want to use the Athena version of pine; don't ask me again
    4. I want to keep using the SIPB pine; don't ask me again

If you don't have a .pinerc, of course, the flag dotfile is created
before the real pine program gets run.



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