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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Fri Apr 28 14:03:26 1989

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 89 11:06:41 EDT
From: Jonathan I. Kamens <jik@Athena.MIT.EDU>
To: elwin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Cc: bug-sipb@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, usenet@athena.mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <elwin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>'s message of Fri, 28 Apr 89 10:47:58 EDT <8904281447.AA03914@W20-575-60.MIT.EDU>
   From: <elwin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
   Date: Fri, 28 Apr 89 10:47:58 EDT

Well, first of all, comments about the SIPB news service should be
sent to usenet@athena, rather than bug-sipb@athena.  Usenet is a more
specific mailing list composed of the people who maintain the news
software at Athena.

      I am trying to post some announcements for the Student
   Art Association, and I'm finding it frustrating.

In the whole first half of your article, you fail even to mention what
program you are using.  I can only assume it is xrn.  In the future,
please first describe the program you are using, which version (i.e.
what directory it is in) you are using, and what function you are
trying to perform.

      For one thing I can't seem to find the 'Meta-' key that
   works with posting an article. I want to include a file.
   I've tried <compose character>-i, <compose character>-I,
   <F11>-i, <F11>-i, and pounding on the keyboard with my
   fist. Nothing seems to work. I am on a regular VAXstation
   2000 in the student center cluster; nothing exotic about
   that.

Are you holding down the compose character key while you type the `i'?
I just tried running xrn and holding down the alt key and typing i
works fine for me.  Granted, I'm on an IBM RT, and it may not work
properly on the VAX -- please let me know if that is the case, because
I can't test it just now.

      Also, I posted some stuff on Wed., and none of the
   contents of my postings appeared - just the header and
   a spacer line that looked like '====='. Are there some
   rules I should know, like no blank lines in a posting,
   or no lines that begin with <tab>?

I don't know what could be wrong.  Posting from xrn works fine with
me.  Are you leaving a blank line after the header of the message and
before the message contents?

      Finally, I would often like to use rn instead of xrn
   because it is faster. But about 75% of the time I try to
   run it, I get a message like "rn stopped.  tty out". can
   you tell me what is wrong here? do I need some more junk
   in "." files?  Also, it there an Athena dialup number?

You're running it in the background.  Rn does terminal intput/output,
so it must be run in the foreground.  Type "rn", not "rn &".

  --> Jonathan Kamens
      SIPB (Student Information Processing Board) Member
      jik@ATHENA.MIT.EDU

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