[6858] in APO Printshop
Re: Paper Cutter (WAS: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benazeer Noorani)
Fri Aug 28 20:29:32 2015
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1508282009030.9521@M66-080-2.MIT.EDU>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:29:29 -0400
From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>
To: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>, Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>,
Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@panix.com>, APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu>,
APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
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The blade needs sharpening. It's a much longer blade than I've ever had to
sharpen in my own personal tool box, and I wouldn't want to experiment on
equipment owned by the chapter.
The hinge is loose, and it requires care and shoulder strength to keep the
blade and hinge aligned properly. Perhaps more shoulder strength than the
average middle aged woman has, regardless of mechanical know-how.
The edges of the shelf are rough and could use cleaning up, and the ruler
and guide markings could stand to be re-drawn with a straightedge and some
careful measurements, but that's minor compared to the above two issues.
YiS
Benazeer
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:
> Benazeer:
>
> Thanks for this knowledge. I find it a little balky to get good cuts
> with it, but not troublesome. But if you are having trouble, enough
> others will.
>
> So replacing it is fine with me. I suggest a similar blade length.
>
> If people want, I could try and sharpen the blade first. Might be
> something else wrong with it.
>
> Otherwise, do alumni want to fund a replacement?
>
> Does Press Shop Manager Vicki want to spend Press Fund money, or ask
> the actives for funds from other AX accounts?
>
> Once a replacement is found, I could take the old one home. Be
> interesting to try and get it working better.
>
> yiLFS -len
>
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:27 -0400
> From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>
> To: len tower jr <tower@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>, Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu
> >,
> Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@panix.com>, APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.ed=
u
> >,
> APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
>
> For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tried
> using it
> to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all possible ca=
re
> with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous about my
> personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was giving to a
> printshop
> customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it was in bad
> disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.
>
> --Benazeer
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. <
> tower@alum.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400
> > From: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>
> > To: "tower@alum.mit.edu" <tower@alum.mit.edu>
> > Cc: Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>, "apo-om@mit.edu" <
> > apo-om@mit.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearranging the APOffice
> >
> > Hi Len,
> >
> > To answer your questions:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > *In your other email, you mentioned the vise and. .... 2) Th=
e
> > vise as it is right now is not great for office space. We will
> > probably be moving it and the paper cutter; let=C2=B9s talk more =
about
> > what surfaces can be used with the vise, but the one it is on rig=
ht
> > now is not great for the front office.
> >
> > Best,
> > Vicki
> >
> > My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pair of exchanges
> > about the Vice on the Worktable. I couldn't find them. She doesn't
> > want the worktable to stay in the APOffice. She suggested that we
> just
> > move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutter and the
> > pencil sharpener. Which isn't safe.
> >
> > Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and repair the
> > press shop equipment. It's useful at times for other things.
> >
> > To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:
> >
> > * the vise needs to be near the height it is now. That is, it need=
s
> to
> > be mounted at a height so it can be used while standing. It is
> > unsafe to use it at a lower height. It is unsafe to use it seate=
d
> or
> > bent over. None of the other surfaces in the front APOffice are
> high
> > enough.
> >
> > * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick, and material
> has
> > able to hold bolts under force over time. The 'table' has to be
> > sturdy. The object in the vise has to be held well and steadily.
> If
> > the surface is thin or weak, it's possible for the vice to detach
> > suddenly, which is not safe.
> >
> > * there has to be a certain amount of working room, around it. But
> > that can be created on the fly, depending on how the vise is used=
.
> >
> > The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is superior to the
> > electric one. You can get a sharper point with less loss of pencil
> with
> > it. It could be relocated.
> >
> > It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the height of th=
e
> > worktable. It could be moved elsewhere.
> >
> > The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor space.
> > The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space, which AP=
O
> > has over 80%.
> > So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor space APO has=
.
> > AX can't afford that floor space?
> >
> > We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?). The las=
t
> > time the APOffice was rearranged. Many options were considered. We
> > settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front APOffice.
> I
> > could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so precious for me
> > since the head trauma. If needed, could someone else dif it out?
> >
> > I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktable in the
> > APOffice. The top of the table can also be used for other things an=
d
> > tasks. The space under could be continue to be used other storage,
> > perhaps the ritual equipment..
> >
> > yiLFS -len
> >
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>The blade needs sharpening. It's a much long=
er blade than I've ever had to sharpen in my own personal tool box, and=
I wouldn't want to experiment on equipment owned by the chapter. <br><=
br></div>The hinge is loose, and it requires care and shoulder strength to =
keep the blade and hinge aligned properly. Perhaps more shoulder strength t=
han the average middle aged woman has, regardless of mechanical know-how.<b=
r><br></div><div>The edges of the shelf are rough and could use cleaning up=
, and the ruler and guide markings could stand to be re-drawn with a straig=
htedge and some careful measurements, but that's minor compared to the =
above two issues.<br><br></div><div>YiS<br><br></div><div>Benazeer<br></div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Au=
g 28, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D=
"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>></s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Benazeer:<br>
<br>
Thanks for this knowledge.=C2=A0 I find it a little balky to get good cuts<=
br>
with it, but not troublesome.=C2=A0 But if you are having trouble, enough<b=
r>
others will.<br>
<br>
So replacing it is fine with me.=C2=A0 I suggest a similar blade length.<br=
>
<br>
If people want, I could try and sharpen the blade first.=C2=A0 Might be<br>
something else wrong with it.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, do alumni want to fund a replacement?<br>
<br>
Does Press Shop Manager Vicki want to spend Press Fund money, or ask<br>
the actives for funds from other AX accounts?<br>
<br>
Once a replacement is found, I could take the old one home.=C2=A0 Be<br>
interesting to try and get it working better.<br>
<br>
yiLFS -len<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:53:27 -0400<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Benazeer Noorani <<a href=3D"mailto:benazeer@gmail.co=
m">benazeer@gmail.com</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0To: len tower jr <<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tow=
er@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"mailto:vxiao@mit.edu">vxiao@m=
it.edu</a>>, Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"mailto:mrwalker@mit.edu">m=
rwalker@mit.edu</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ellen Kranzer <<a href=3D"mailto:ccrazy@panix=
.com">ccrazy@panix.com</a>>, APO Office Manger <<a href=3D"mailto:apo=
-om@mit.edu">apo-om@mit.edu</a>>,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0APO Press <<a href=3D"mailto:apo-printshop@mi=
t.edu">apo-printshop@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair.=
I tried using it<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all pos=
sible care<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous a=
bout my<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was givin=
g to a printshop<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it wa=
s in bad<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0--Benazeer<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"mailto:vx=
iao@mit.edu">vxiao@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To: "<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.e=
du">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu">=
tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cc: Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"mailto:=
mrwalker@mit.edu">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@=
mit.edu">apo-om@mit.edu</a>" <<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> <a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@mit.edu">apo-om@mit.edu</a>><=
br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearrangi=
ng the APOffice<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi Len,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To answer your questions:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 *In your other email, you mentioned the vise=
and.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ....=C2=A0 =C2=A02) The<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 vise as it is right now is not great for off=
ice space. We will<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 probably be moving it and the paper cutter; =
let=C2=B9s talk more about<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 what surfaces can be used with the vise, but=
the one it is on right<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 now is not great for the front office.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Vicki<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pai=
r of exchanges<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> about the Vice on the Worktable.=C2=A0 I couldn't fin=
d them.=C2=A0 She doesn't<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> want the worktable to stay in the APOffice.=C2=A0 She sug=
gested that we just<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> move the vise to another surface along with the paper cut=
ter and the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> pencil sharpener.=C2=A0 Which isn't safe.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and =
repair the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> press shop equipment.=C2=A0 It's useful at times for =
other things.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 * the vise needs to be near the height it is now.=
=C2=A0 That is, it needs to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 be mounted at a height so it can be used whi=
le standing.=C2=A0 It is<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 unsafe to use it at a lower height.=C2=A0 It=
is unsafe to use it seated or<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 bent over.=C2=A0 None of the other surfaces =
in the front APOffice are high<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 enough.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thic=
k, and material has<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 able to hold bolts under force over time.=C2=
=A0 The 'table' has to be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 sturdy.=C2=A0 The object in the vise has to =
be held well and steadily.=C2=A0 If<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 the surface is thin or weak, it's possib=
le for the vice to detach<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 suddenly, which is not safe.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 * there has to be a certain amount of working room,=
around it.=C2=A0 But<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 that can be created on the fly, depending on=
how the vise is used.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is supe=
rior to the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> electric one.=C2=A0 You can get a sharper point with less=
loss of pencil with<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> it.=C2=A0 It could be relocated.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at t=
he height of the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> worktable.=C2=A0 It could be moved elsewhere.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor sp=
ace.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor spac=
e, which APO<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> has over 80%.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor sp=
ace APO has.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> AX can't afford that floor space?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?=
).=C2=A0 The last<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> time the APOffice was rearranged.=C2=A0 Many options were=
considered.=C2=A0 We<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the fron=
t APOffice.=C2=A0 I<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so prec=
ious for me<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> since the head trauma.=C2=A0 If needed, could someone els=
e dif it out?<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktab=
le in the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> APOffice.=C2=A0 The top of the table can also be used for=
other things and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> tasks.=C2=A0 The space under could be continue to be used=
other storage,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> perhaps the ritual equipment..<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0> yiLFS -len<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</blockquote></div><br></div>
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