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Re: Wedding Invitation Design Draft

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Benazeer Noorani)
Wed Apr 11 14:01:12 2012

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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:01:09 -0400
From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>
To: Jen Selby <jenselby@gmail.com>
Cc: Nick Martin <nim@nimlabs.org>, apo-printshop@mit.edu

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Hi

I took a look at what paper we have in stock in the office. We can
definitely do this run with what's in stock, with modifications.

First of all, we don't have enough of anything in ivory, but we do have
plenty of "classic cream"  It's slightly more yellow than ivory but not
what I would call a butter yellow.

Second, on sizing. We have just shy of 200 4-bar plain cards. We 250
4-bar *panel
*cards, which have an embossed center. The margins are a half inch on all
four sides, and by some rough calculations, the text for your reply card
won't fit without adding a line break to the first option or using smaller
text.

For the Lee, we have 250 each of the plain and panel-- these with a 5/8
inch border on all sides.  I could do the first page (with the leafy
border) on the plain card, and squeeze down the information card to fit
within the panel margins.  This would mean removing some of the vertical
space between lines and adjusting the line breaks in the center paragraph
with hotel information.

We also have 4-bar folders, with the embossed panel on the front, but a
plain, unembossed inside page and plain Lee folders. So another option is
to put the reply text and invitation on the insides of folders, and have
the reception information on a panel.

Or, since it will take at least two days to set and lock up the type, one
of us could go buy non-panel cards and matching envelopes from Bob Slate or
somewhere else nearby.

Let me know what you want to do, and I'll start with setting the invitation
card, which can't go on an embossed panel in any case, and the envelopes.

YiLFS

Benazeer



On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Jen Selby <jenselby@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> Here are the updated drafts of our layout. There were a few wording
> changes, and a number of changes in where we placed the linebreaks.
>
> Let us know if you have any questions, or if there is anything we
> should change based on the supplies the print shop has on hand.
>
> We would like to have these by early April, if possible.
>
> Jen Selby
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Jen Selby <jenselby@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I'm sorry I'm getting this to you a little later than I promised, but
> > I hope it's still early enough that you'll be able to print these up
> > over spring break, as you hoped. This is our first draft of the
> > layout. Please let us know of anything that would be difficult to lay
> > out nicely. We're happy to make changes. We'll send an updated version
> > after we get feedback from some other people.
> >
> > Since (sadly) Nick and I use HTML/CSS more often than LaTeX these
> > days, we used that to lay out the designs. I'm including a PDF (to
> > skirt browser display issues) as well as the HTML and CSS source
> > files, in case those are useful for getting details of some of the
> > layout choices. We don't recommend viewing the HTML file in a browser
> > to look at the layout :)
> >
> > We'd like 225 of each piece.
> >
> > For the paper, we're looking for something in the ivory-buttercup
> > yellow spectrum. We based the layout sizes on standard (I hope)
> > Baronial envelopes -- Lee for the large envelope and Baronial 4 for
> > the reply card. For ink, we were thinking of something like Pantone
> > 5615 (dark green), but a brown or black would be OK as well. I'd like
> > to stress that we are not super picky about either sizes or colors,
> > and as long as there is something close, we'd rather go with something
> > you have in stock than wait for an order to come in.
> >
> > Our names should be in TypoScript 24. Most of the rest of the text is
> > Garamond 14 or 18, except for the numbers in the password, because
> > Garamond zeros look too much like lowercase zeros. Any reasonable
> > distinct zero character should be fine to use instead. We also noticed
> > that you don't have bold-weight Garamond, which we used in our layout.
> > Do you have any suggestions for what we could do instead to make the
> > dates stand out a bit?
> >
> > We grabbed a random image for the APO logo. I assume you have
> > something you can use for that.
> >
> > The border image is meant to stand in for the leafy border pieces that
> > I saw when I visited. We may be really off on the size of those pieces
> > relative to the text, in which case we can adjust our layout
> > accordingly.
> >
> > Jen
>

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Hi<div><br></div><div>I took a look at what paper we have in stock in the o=
ffice. We can definitely do this run with what&#39;s in stock, with modific=
ations.</div><div><br></div><div>First of all, we don&#39;t have enough of =
anything in ivory, but we do have plenty of &quot;classic cream&quot; =A0It=
&#39;s slightly more yellow than ivory but not what I would call a butter y=
ellow.=A0</div>
<div><br>Second, on sizing. We have just shy of 200 4-bar plain cards. We 2=
50 4-bar <i>panel </i>cards, which have an embossed center. The margins are=
 a half inch on all four sides, and by some rough calculations, the text fo=
r your reply card won&#39;t fit without adding a line break to the first op=
tion or using smaller text.=A0<br>
<br>For the Lee, we have 250 each of the plain and panel-- these with a 5/8=
 inch border on all sides. =A0I could do the first page (with the leafy bor=
der) on the plain card, and squeeze down the information card to fit within=
 the panel margins. =A0This would mean removing some of the vertical space =
between lines and adjusting the line breaks in the center paragraph with ho=
tel information.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We also have 4-bar folders, with the embossed panel on =
the front, but a plain, unembossed inside page and plain Lee folders. So an=
other option is to put the reply text and invitation on the insides of fold=
ers, and have the reception information on a panel.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Or, since it will take at least two days to set and loc=
k up the type, one of us could go buy non-panel cards and matching envelope=
s from Bob Slate or somewhere else nearby. =A0</div><div><br></div><div>Let=
 me know what you want to do, and I&#39;ll start with setting the invitatio=
n card, which can&#39;t go on an embossed panel in any case, and the envelo=
pes.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>YiLFS</div><div><br>Benazeer</div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:51 A=
M, Jen Selby <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jenselby@gmail.com">je=
nselby@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Andrew,<br>
<br>
Here are the updated drafts of our layout. There were a few wording<br>
changes, and a number of changes in where we placed the linebreaks.<br>
<br>
Let us know if you have any questions, or if there is anything we<br>
should change based on the supplies the print shop has on hand.<br>
<br>
We would like to have these by early April, if possible.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Jen Selby<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Jen Selby &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jenselby@g=
mail.com">jenselby@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Andrew,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m sorry I&#39;m getting this to you a little later than I promis=
ed, but<br>
&gt; I hope it&#39;s still early enough that you&#39;ll be able to print th=
ese up<br>
&gt; over spring break, as you hoped. This is our first draft of the<br>
&gt; layout. Please let us know of anything that would be difficult to lay<=
br>
&gt; out nicely. We&#39;re happy to make changes. We&#39;ll send an updated=
 version<br>
&gt; after we get feedback from some other people.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Since (sadly) Nick and I use HTML/CSS more often than LaTeX these<br>
&gt; days, we used that to lay out the designs. I&#39;m including a PDF (to=
<br>
&gt; skirt browser display issues) as well as the HTML and CSS source<br>
&gt; files, in case those are useful for getting details of some of the<br>
&gt; layout choices. We don&#39;t recommend viewing the HTML file in a brow=
ser<br>
&gt; to look at the layout :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We&#39;d like 225 of each piece.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For the paper, we&#39;re looking for something in the ivory-buttercup<=
br>
&gt; yellow spectrum. We based the layout sizes on standard (I hope)<br>
&gt; Baronial envelopes -- Lee for the large envelope and Baronial 4 for<br=
>
&gt; the reply card. For ink, we were thinking of something like Pantone<br=
>
&gt; 5615 (dark green), but a brown or black would be OK as well. I&#39;d l=
ike<br>
&gt; to stress that we are not super picky about either sizes or colors,<br=
>
&gt; and as long as there is something close, we&#39;d rather go with somet=
hing<br>
&gt; you have in stock than wait for an order to come in.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Our names should be in TypoScript 24. Most of the rest of the text is<=
br>
&gt; Garamond 14 or 18, except for the numbers in the password, because<br>
&gt; Garamond zeros look too much like lowercase zeros. Any reasonable<br>
&gt; distinct zero character should be fine to use instead. We also noticed=
<br>
&gt; that you don&#39;t have bold-weight Garamond, which we used in our lay=
out.<br>
&gt; Do you have any suggestions for what we could do instead to make the<b=
r>
&gt; dates stand out a bit?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We grabbed a random image for the APO logo. I assume you have<br>
&gt; something you can use for that.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The border image is meant to stand in for the leafy border pieces that=
<br>
&gt; I saw when I visited. We may be really off on the size of those pieces=
<br>
&gt; relative to the text, in which case we can adjust our layout<br>
&gt; accordingly.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jen<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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