[6276] in APO Printshop

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: idea to help journeymen with training

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H Tower Jr.)
Sun Jan 30 20:06:11 2011

Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 20:06:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.mit.edu>
To: Joshua B Oreman <oremanj@mit.edu>
cc: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@mit.edu>, apo-printshop <apo-printshop@mit.edu>,
        Melissa Piper Hunt <wings@mit.edu>, apo-president@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimyo_bwJA3YHmfxo2Hf1N+sNQhg0ZQNy6OCT9xP@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Josh, Kristen et al

Kristen: Thanks for this email.

* Interesting idea.  My initial reaction is that the system we have in
  place has served AX well for four decades.  And the problems are
  elsewhere.

  I have also found that K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple - is wise.  (That
  is, Keep It as Simple as possible.)  As some of you know, people
  like Einstein and Newton agree. ; - }

Some of the problems:

* The earlier in the term pledges are offered press training, the more
  do it.  Under the current way things run, the Press Shop Manager, an
  active appointed by the President, is suppose to do this.  The Press
  Shop Manager often doesn't get to it until too late in the term.
  Even when reminded, the reminder has often had to be repeated.

  We use to have a system where the journeymen shared the
  responsibility of running the Shop - doing the tasks that active
  Press Shop Manager is now responsible for.  In terms of the health
  of the Shop, it worked much better.  Now it varies immensely
  depending on how well the Press Shop Manager does that job.

* Another reasons we don't have more journeymen, is that little
  printing is being done in the Shop.  Barring genius (and we haven't
  had one come through the APOster Letterpress Shop yet ; - ) a fair
  amount of decent quality printing has to be dome, before someone
  knows enough to train or qualify, i.e. become a journeyman.  We look
  for other things: e.g. some ability to teach, a clear understanding
  of the safety issue, having set an good example as a press
  operator, especially with regard to safety issues, etc.

  It is the responsibility of the Press Shop Manager to lead the
  effort to get MIT organizations to order printing.  Few Press Shop
  Managers have much at all here, and clearly not enough.

* Our best journeymen really enjoy printing, and found ways to do
  many jobs each term.  It's a joy when this happens.  We really like
  asking a brother his second or third term @ MIT to become a
  journeymen.  A few times a decade, and even so, it's been a while.

* One option would be to rename the PSM to Press Shop Treasurer, and
  just have them pre-approve any purchases, chase down debts, and be
  the formal link between the shop and Exec Comm.

  And go back to the model where the journeymen and press-ops share
  running the shop.

Comments on Kristen's proposal:

* When a press op becomes a journeyman, we have generally asked them
  to just do training runs for a while.  To give feedback when
  qualifying runs happen.  Even so, we haven't found significant
  problems.  We're careful about who we ask, for many reasons
  including those Kristen mentioned.

* There is only one case in the last six year where a pledge or an
  active asked for a training run, and it didn't happen. The request
  came later in the term, when neither Lori nor I were immediately
  available.  

  Even so, it's best for a press op to have different journeymen do
  their training and qualifying runs.  They learn more.

Kristen:

I offered to come in and help with the Reg Day job, if you asked ...

Just feeding the press is a joy (I've mentioned this to you often enough).

Sincerely,
Leonard Tower Jr.

   Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:02:37 -0500
   From: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
   To: apo-printshop <apo-printshop@mit.edu>, Melissa Piper Hunt <wings@mit.edu>
   Subject: idea to help journeymen with training
   
   Maybe this is a dumb idea - feel free to shoot it down kindly if it is. I
   know there are many aspects of the Press Shop of which I am unaware.
   
   But an email of Piper's sparked an idea in my head, that could maybe help
   with the strain that the 2 active & local journeymen are experiencing with
   training new press ops.
   
   What if someone *less* than a journeyman could *train* a press-op, but only
   a journeyman could qualify them?
   This person "less" than a journeyman would be somewhere between a newly
   qualified press op and a journeyman. Maybe a press op who has done a minimum
   number of jobs, or has sufficiently proven themselves in some other way. An
   oral exam going over the important things with a journeyman? A written test?
   It could be whatever the journeymen felt comfortable with.
   
   This way, the number of people who could help out with the press would
   increase. The Reg Day job could be a little party - not the lonely 6-hour
   exhaustion-fest it is now. Also, more people would get to interact with the
   press, which would hopefully increase chapter interest. Right now only 3
   actives are press ops, and only two of those have done a job in the past
   year. And, we are both graduating this semester. Most of the time, people
   barely even remember about the press... I feel like if more people were
   involved with it, it would come up more often, and more people would want to
   be trained!
   
   Ok, so all these good things would happen. But! The journeymen would still
   have ultimate control over who could do independent jobs. These
   non-qualified press ops could only help out with jobs - someone qualified
   would have to be there as well. Thus, I don't think safety would be
   compromised. Nor would the power of the journeymen be decreased.
   
   I am interested to hear the opinions of those on this list. I do not wish to
   "oust" the journeymen in any way - I think that having such a firm hierarchy
   is what keeps the quality and safety of the press shop high. But I also
   think that the press shop has been dying for many years, and I kinda want to
   do something about that! I am also open to any other ideas that wiser folks
   may have.
   
   
   thanks for reading,
   Kristin
   

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post