[5937] in APO Printshop
Re: Setting a Printshop Policy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
Mon Feb 1 14:28:12 2010
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:28:25 -0500 (EST)
From: tower@alum.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
To: apo-rules-comm@mit.edu
Cc: apo-exec@mit.edu, apo-printshop@mit.edu, apo-silkscreen@mit.edu,
jtu@mit.edu
Reply-To: tower@alum.mit.edu
let's get a Subject: line on this
my apologies on missing that
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:23:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Leonard H. Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>
To: apo-rules-comm@mit.edu
Cc: apo-exec@mit.edu, apo-printshop@mit.edu, apo-silkscreen@mit.edu, jtu@mit.edu
hi brothers
i added apo-rules-comm and apo-exec
like jtu, i'm not active.
i'm just suggesting, and being informative.
resolving this is up to the actives
* my advice is to do this right, not in haste
* AX has generally not acted in haste in amending it's by-laws or
passing/changing chapter policies
usually an ad-hoc committee has studied the issue (these days,
it seems apo-rules-comm has this role) spending sufficient time to
understand the issue and to word a policy. then apo-exec does the
same. finally AX considers the proposal at a regularly scheduled
chapter meeting
* with all due respect to jtu, her proposed policy:
* doesn't integrate with the other standing policies
* is ambiguous
* only covers a corner of the issue
* has internal conflicts
* shows little understanding of the federal and state laws
* tries to handle the future about what matt's inquiry via the SFAO
may or may not result in - when it be better to amend or add
policy once it is known what MIT will allow, if anything
* i would much prefer to meet in person with those who need to be
educated about the federal and state law involved. about why the
United States Congress and the Mass State Legislature limits what
APO, MIT, and other charities can do. my experience is
that much more progress is made in person, than via e-mail
i offered to come to the brainstorming meeting on this, but was told
i would be invited to a later rules-comm meeting
* arithistis and my rsi, limits my typing, and to even answer the
pending emails is a lot of typing
i wish i didn't have to type all of this email
yiLFS -len http://www.art.net/~tower/
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:39:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Jennifer Tu <jtu@MIT.EDU>
To: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
Cc: apo-printshop <apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>, apo-silkscreen-chair@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Setting a Printshop Policy
[adding silkscreen chair since this also affects them]
I'm going to suggest the following. I'm not active, so definitely feel free
to disregard entirely. (The use of the word "should" below is a suggestion
and not an imperative :)
--
An active should volunteer to bring this up at the next regularly scheduled
chapter meeting. The chapter should adopt one of the following as a standing
policy:
(1) AX offers fee-based services to any individual or group in the MIT
community, and to any non-MIT individual or group that would like to have a
job done for service purposes. Exceptions must be approved by the
appropriate chair, the President, and the Treasurer.
(2) AX offers fee-based services to groups with 501(c)3 status. Authorized
operators may do personal jobs with their own materials, for which they do
not expect payment. Exceptions must be approved by the appropriate chair, the
President, and the Treasurer.
(3) AX offers fee-based services to groups with 501(c)3 status. MIT
community individuals and groups, and non-MIT individuals and groups that
would like to have a job printed for service purposes, may request a job
provided appropriate, SAFO-approved paperwork is filed. Exceptions must be
approved by the appropriate chair, the President, and the Treasurer.
--
We've all heard the pros and cons for each of those policy suggestions. I
strongly suggest that aside from new suggestions, discussion and argument be
brought to the next regularly scheduled chapter meeting rather than an email
list.
--Jennifer
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Kristin Kuhn wrote:
> We. really. need. to set. a policy!! Until this tax thing is worked out. I
> would propose one, but I am hella-confused, and my policy would sound like
> "eff the man, let's just continue on as before". But obviously that's not
> that great of an idea.
>
> I've taken on the PSC lady's wedding invitations job, and I feel super
> guilty and criminal-like.
> Can I take money from her?
> Should I do it as a personal favor (i.e., pay for the press fees myself?)
> Should we be doing jobs for individuals at all?
>
> And what should we tell Jesse? Can't leave him hanging forever.... I can't
> take his job; I already have 2 in my queue. But should we even try to take
> it??
>
> auughhh
> -Kristin
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Matthew S Goldstein
> <austein@mit.edu>wrote:
>
> > "Office of the Vice President for Finance"
> > I wonder if her friend Tim is also in that office and the hearing about
> > is
> > due to the tax inquiries getting to them.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:28:01 -0500
> > From: Elizabeth Parr <eaparr@MIT.EDU>
> > To: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> > Cc: Jesse Goldberg <jesseg1@mit.edu>
> > Subject: Wedding Invitation Project
> >
> > Dear APO printing brothers,
> >
> > My friend Tim told me about your printing press and has piqued my
> > interest-I'm getting married, you see, and there are invitations to be
> > lovingly crafted! We were going to write them by hand...
> >
> > I'd love to swing by sometime next week to check out you digs and talk
> > about the project. We're sending out about 60 invitations and I think
> > the
> > printing areas that might be good candidates for your press would be:
> >
> > Card Insert w weekend schedule (about the size of an index card)
> > Return envelope
> > Mailing envelope return address
> > Maybe the invitation itself...
> >
> > We have the paper already-is there a time next week with I could swing by
> > for a visit? Wednesday and Friday are good days for me.
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth A. Parr
> > Office of the Vice President for Finance
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> > 77 Massachusetts Avenue NE49-3000
> > Cambridge, MA 02139
> > p. 617 324 1487 / eaparr@mit.edu<mailto:eaparr@mit.edu>
> >
>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:39:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Jennifer Tu <jtu@MIT.EDU>
To: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
Cc: apo-printshop <apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>, apo-silkscreen-chair@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Setting a Printshop Policy
[adding silkscreen chair since this also affects them]
I'm going to suggest the following. I'm not active, so definitely feel free
to disregard entirely. (The use of the word "should" below is a suggestion
and not an imperative :)
--
An active should volunteer to bring this up at the next regularly scheduled
chapter meeting. The chapter should adopt one of the following as a standing
policy:
(1) AX offers fee-based services to any individual or group in the MIT
community, and to any non-MIT individual or group that would like to have a
job done for service purposes. Exceptions must be approved by the
appropriate chair, the President, and the Treasurer.
(2) AX offers fee-based services to groups with 501(c)3 status. Authorized
operators may do personal jobs with their own materials, for which they do
not expect payment. Exceptions must be approved by the appropriate chair, the
President, and the Treasurer.
(3) AX offers fee-based services to groups with 501(c)3 status. MIT
community individuals and groups, and non-MIT individuals and groups that
would like to have a job printed for service purposes, may request a job
provided appropriate, SAFO-approved paperwork is filed. Exceptions must be
approved by the appropriate chair, the President, and the Treasurer.
--
We've all heard the pros and cons for each of those policy suggestions. I
strongly suggest that aside from new suggestions, discussion and argument be
brought to the next regularly scheduled chapter meeting rather than an email
list.
--Jennifer
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Kristin Kuhn wrote:
> We. really. need. to set. a policy!! Until this tax thing is worked out. I
> would propose one, but I am hella-confused, and my policy would sound like
> "eff the man, let's just continue on as before". But obviously that's not
> that great of an idea.
>
> I've taken on the PSC lady's wedding invitations job, and I feel super
> guilty and criminal-like.
> Can I take money from her?
> Should I do it as a personal favor (i.e., pay for the press fees myself?)
> Should we be doing jobs for individuals at all?
>
> And what should we tell Jesse? Can't leave him hanging forever.... I can't
> take his job; I already have 2 in my queue. But should we even try to take
> it??
>
> auughhh
> -Kristin
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Matthew S Goldstein
> <austein@mit.edu>wrote:
>
> > "Office of the Vice President for Finance"
> > I wonder if her friend Tim is also in that office and the hearing about
> > is
> > due to the tax inquiries getting to them.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:28:01 -0500
> > From: Elizabeth Parr <eaparr@MIT.EDU>
> > To: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> > Cc: Jesse Goldberg <jesseg1@mit.edu>
> > Subject: Wedding Invitation Project
> >
> > Dear APO printing brothers,
> >
> > My friend Tim told me about your printing press and has piqued my
> > interest-I'm getting married, you see, and there are invitations to be
> > lovingly crafted! We were going to write them by hand...
> >
> > I'd love to swing by sometime next week to check out you digs and talk
> > about the project. We're sending out about 60 invitations and I think
> > the
> > printing areas that might be good candidates for your press would be:
> >
> > Card Insert w weekend schedule (about the size of an index card)
> > Return envelope
> > Mailing envelope return address
> > Maybe the invitation itself...
> >
> > We have the paper already-is there a time next week with I could swing by
> > for a visit? Wednesday and Friday are good days for me.
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth A. Parr
> > Office of the Vice President for Finance
> > Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> > 77 Massachusetts Avenue NE49-3000
> > Cambridge, MA 02139
> > p. 617 324 1487 / eaparr@mit.edu<mailto:eaparr@mit.edu>
> >
>
