[5897] in APO Printshop
Re: MIT staff print job
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cat Thu Nguyen Huu)
Thu Jan 7 19:38:42 2010
Cc: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@mit.edu>,
"apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
From: Cat Thu Nguyen Huu <catthu@MIT.EDU>
To: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.1001071852040.19950@mass-toolpike.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:38:35 -0500
Some of us have noticed that other student groups under the same tax =20
exemption have been publicly providing profitable service outside of =20
MIT (example was ads in the Tech); so it's possible that we still =20
don't have the whole picture. Since it doesn't hurt to let Kerri =20
finish her research and hear from it, I suggest we do so. I'm also =20
skeptical on the use of Tech Cash, so I won't do anything until that's =20=
clarified. In the mean time, I will let them know that we will need =20
time to consider their request and ask if they can wait.
After all, this tax issue is the only reason why we think we can't =20
provide service to private individuals. If we eventually figure out =20
that we legally can through some different procedures, then it's a =20
good thing and we should have no reason not to make good use of it.
--Cat
On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:50:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>
> To: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: MIT staff print job
> Hi Len,
>
> I, for one, look forward to APO being known across campus and =20
> having no
> student group unaware of our services.
>
> there is nothing legal that prevents AX from providing mit student =20
> groups
> with printing now to support their legal programs
>
> but not private individuals, whether they are members of the MIT
> Community or not
>
> there are issues here beyond just collecting sales tax.
> issues that kerri, based on what you have written, does not seem to
> understand
>
> the Chapter would be wise to consult beyond kerri and the SFAO
>
> yiLFS -len On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> > sadly, kerri does not understand the law here
> > > i suggest you arrange to speak with whomever is responsible =20
> for filing
> > the part of MIT's federal tax return for reporting non-related
> > business income. i believe it's form 990-T. ditto for sales tax.
> > they should be in MIT's Office of the Vice President of Finance
> > > they should be able to tell what is needed to fulfill mit's =20
> reporting
> > requirements, and to pass you on to whomever decides on whether AX
> > should be allowed to generate such income, and under what
> > requirements
> > > it be approprite for AX's president and treasurer to attend =20
> such meetings
> > > yiLFS -len
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:43:03 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>
> > To: Jennifer Tu <jtu@MIT.EDU>
> > Cc: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>,
> > "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: MIT staff print job
> > I stopped by SAFO today to ask Kerri about this since it seems =20=
> like
> > there
> > must be a way.
> > As Ellen's mail indicated, taking sales tax is complicated. =20
> But it's
> > possible! Kerri has been looking into doing something similar =20
> for another
> > student group so she's been familiarizing herself with this. =20
> She said if
> > we
> > ask in a week or two she may have an easy way for us to report =20
> this and
> > take
> > the sales tax when needed.
> > Meanwhile, there are two ways that we can do this for people =20
> at MIT.
> > The first is to take techcash for the job - this is internal to =20=
> MIT so we
> > avoid the tax issue.
> > The second is to provide the service for free and accept a =20
> donation. While
> > legal, Kerri suggested only doing this as a stopgap and =20
> recommended the
> > TechCash solution over it.
> > As for external jobs from not-MIT people such as Mims' =20
> business cards,
> > she
> > suggested we hold off until we can accept sales tax
> > Anyway, this was all just a quick meeting with Kerri since i =20
> was in the
> > building when I saw this. Cat, it's up to you what you want to =20=
> do.
> > --Matt
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Jennifer Tu wrote:
> > > Hi Len,
> > > > Thanks for providing this information to everyone. I =20
> personally
> > found the
> > > last two emails helpful.
> > > > Would it be possible for you to let us know why it's not =20
> allowed? a
> > quick
> > > description like "because it's something you can go to a =20
> business for
> > and
> > > the requestor is an individual/business" (or whatever the reason
> > actually
> > > is) would be great. A really quick description of why you =20
> recommend
> > > turning away a job would both help ops learn why we can or =20
> can't do
> > > something, which would make each of us better at publicizing =20
> the press
> > > services to the correct audiences. It would also help those
> > policy-minded
> > > actives with crafting a good policy on the chapter providing =20
> fee-based
> > > services.
> > > > Nothing long or time-intensive or even thorough -- just a =20=
> quick
> > sentence
> > > that would help your brothers understand your no/maybe =20
> recommendation.
> > > > --Jennifer
> > > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> > > > > hi cat et all
> > > > > > this job is beyond what AX is allowed to do under the =20=
> tax
> > exemptions
> > > > we have as part of mit
> > > > > > yiLFS -len
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:20:29 -0500
> > > > From: Jennifer Cook <jacook@MIT.EDU>
> > > > To: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> > > > Subject: MIT staff print job
> > > > > > Hello!
> > > > > > I=92ve just met with Matthew Goldstein and he said to =20=
> email this
> > > > address as I=92m interested in getting wedding invitations =20=
> printed
> > > > up. I=92d be interested in the invitation, response card,
> > > > direction card and envelopes printed with return address. =20=
> Thank
> > > > you!
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > Jen
>
