[5502] in APO Printshop
Re: cat is a fully qualifed letterpress operator! - small press cart
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H Tower Jr.)
Tue Nov 18 22:48:57 2008
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:46:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
To: Zev Benjamin <zev@MIT.EDU>
cc: Elizabeth de Regt <ederegt@MIT.EDU>, Matthew Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>,
apo-printshop@MIT.EDU, apo-tools@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <49238B5E.4000706@mit.edu>
stacking chairs,
or folding chairs might be useful,
if you want to have a high attendance meeting in the APOffice
yiLFS -len
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:43:26 -0500
From: Zev Benjamin <zev@MIT.EDU>
I had proposed getting rid of those chairs a while ago and (possibly)
replacing them with ones that fit nicely under the desks if we think
that's useful, but nothing ever came of it.
Zev
Elizabeth de Regt wrote:
> Thanks Len! Lot of good ideas in there. Some of the things (like the
> shelves above the sewing desk) I've already thought through and
> discarded. But I'll take a look at the rest of your ideas this week.
> I've been wondering about htose chairs too. Matt, why the hell are they
> there? They're completely useless...
> Liz
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr.
> <tower@alum.mit.edu <mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu>> wrote:
>
> liz:
>
> * glad the BIG table is clearer
> it wasn't when i was last in the APOffice
>
> * questions actives should answer:
>
> would it be better to get rid of the cement blocks (reuse?), and
> build the sides of a new bookcase out of wood?
> the shelves would be more stable
> be a tools skill teaching project, especially if you routed grooves
> for the shelves
>
> does the APOffice need more shelves,
> if it is already overflowing and in packrat mode?
> (periodically, brothers have done a purge of some of the
> accumulation)
>
> are all the desk chairs needed?
>
> might it make sense to take the small shelves above the sewing desk
> off the wall, and put the new block and board bookshelf on the
> sewing desk against the wall?
>
> should the large wooden box @ the end of the coffee table, be moved
> under the BIG table? it was once the box that held all the ritual
> equipment, but is probably still historian storage
>
> * the small press cart has to be quite sturdy, as it will have about
> 200 pounds of small press on top of it, that will crack, if it falls
> any height
>
> so it has to be constructed very well
>
> i have no idea which brothers are good enough carpenters to do it,
> even if i had a measured drawing and could discuss it with them
>
> so, yes, i would prefer to be there when it's built
>
> yiLFS -len
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:11:16 -0500
> From: Elizabeth de Regt <ederegt@MIT.EDU <mailto:ederegt@MIT.EDU>>
> To: Matthew Goldstein <austein@mit.edu <mailto:austein@mit.edu>>
> Cc: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu
> <mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu>>, apo-printshop@mit.edu
> <mailto:apo-printshop@mit.edu>,
> apo-tools@mit.edu <mailto:apo-tools@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: cat is a fully qualifed letterpress operator!
>
> really? I'm still supposed to be office manager? With all that
> time I'll
> have next term, good to know :P
> heh, in that case I shouldn't say that I don't really care so much
> and will
> let the next office manager deal with it. hmmm it'd be good to
> organize
> building of this, but it sounds like Len thinks it's more
> complicated and
> just wants to do it himself. Is this true Len? It's just
> frustrating because
> I've been rearranging the front of the office.
> Also, that table is not very full right now. It's actually got a
> ton of
> empty space on top of it for once; it's got the metal contraption
> that is
> apparently the letter press and like one box of fabric on it right
> now.
> Otherwise it's got a few boxes under it that are for silkscreening and
> sewing stuff. It's actually much cleaner than it was for most of
> last term,
> so I'm not sure what else you want it to be. Plus, that table is
> kinda for
> the stuff that it currently has on it. Except the letter press, which
> doesn't fit in with the rest of the stuff at all but is still ok
> there since
> there's room there.
> The cement blocks were going to be used this week, but then I
> realized that
> a better idea is to move the couch-chair over to between the
> bookcase and
> sewing desk than to elevate it like Liz! planned. Then I can set
> up the
> shelves and cement blocks where the chair currently is. But I
> can't do that
> till the wood is moved. Hence my initial email.
> And I didn't mean that the office is a mess because stuff is left
> by the
> door (which it really doesn't seem to be, at least this term and
> last since
> I pledged); I meant that it has a bunch of random stuff it doesn't
> really
> need: APO=packrat. As we acquire more stuff, there isn't really
> room for it.
> That's all I meant. When I see stuff sitting around, I poke
> people. or just
> clean it if it's easy. Let me know if you're in the office and
> notice there
> being stuff just left by the door! I'm always happy to poke if
> there's a
> problem:)
> Liz
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Matthew Goldstein
> <austein@mit.edu <mailto:austein@mit.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Don't worry! No teaching necessary, just a general design to
> work off.
> > Heck, we could probably do that while you're away so no time
> would have
> > to be taken from press training. Our tools chair has said she
> would be
> > willing to do a training for brothers and pledges who want to
> learn so
> > this would be the perfect chance to go through that material for
> them.
> >
> > --Matt
> >
> > Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> > > hi matt et al
> > >
> > > i have never taught the chapter skill of tools use and safety,
> > > so would need a briefing
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > i need one or two people for 30 minutes or so
> > >
> > > it be ok to have help for the whole duration,
> > > but not necessary
> > >
> > > if-fy i can do this until new year's
> > > i have to recheck the design, and make sure all the hardware
> is still
> > > in the APOffice, before scheduling help
> > >
> > > yiLFS -len
> > >
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:30:18 -0500 (EST)
> > > From: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU
> <mailto:austein@MIT.EDU>>
> > > To: Elizabeth de Regt <ederegt@MIT.EDU
> <mailto:ederegt@MIT.EDU>>
> > > Cc: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.MIT.EDU
> <mailto:tower@alum.MIT.EDU>>, apo-printshop@MIT.EDU
> <mailto:apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>
> > > Subject: Re: cat is a fully qualifed letterpress operator!
> > >
> > > Could this be a chapter project? There are plenty of
> people who could
> > > probably use the tools skill.
> > > Also, Liz, Office Manager isn't elected until the Spring,
> so you still
> > get to
> > > do it :-)
> > >
> > > --Matt
> > >
> > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Elizabeth de Regt wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Len-
> > > > Which big table do you mean? I definitely won't be able to do
> > anything this
> > > > week, and since elections are next week I'll pass this
> all along to
> > the new
> > > > Office manager (I won't be running again since I'm
> running for other
> > > > positions). It'd be great if we could get people to help
> you in
> > this/take
> > > > over since you sound pretty busy. As long as it gets
> completely done
> > over
> > > > IAP, there isn't too much wrong with keeping the wood
> there for now,
> > but
> > > > it'd be better if there were another option. Shrug, the
> office is
> > kinda a
> > > > mess in general. It happens. Thanks for your reply,
> > > > Liz%20
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr.
> > > > <tower@alum.mit.edu <mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu>>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi liz
> > > > >
> > > > > i do still plan to build the small press cart
> > > > > by the end of iap
> > > > >
> > > > > i'm out of town more than half the days in nov and dec,
> and have
> > been
> > > > > and will continue to give apo-time to training and
> qualifying
> > people
> > > > > on the letterpress
> > > > > unless you or matt convince me it's more important to
> deal with
> > this
> > > > >
> > > > > i need someone to help me cut the wood up,
> > > > > and haven't corralled anyone yet
> > > > >
> > > > > the boxes on and stuff around the large table are
> marginally in
> > the
> > > > > way of doing this carpentry for the small press cart
> > > > > at least will chew extra time moving them out of the way,
> > > > > then moving them back
> > > > >
> > > > > if you can get some of that cleared out, it will help
> me build the
> > > > > small press cart
> > > > >
> > > > > yiLFS -len
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:11:59 -0500
> > > > > From: Elizabeth de Regt <ederegt@MIT.EDU
> <mailto:ederegt@MIT.EDU>>
> > > > > To: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu
> <mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu>>,
> > apo-printshop@mit.edu <mailto:apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> > > > > Subject: Re: cat is a fully qualifed letterpress
> operator!
> > > > >
> > > > > Len-
> > > > > This doesn't really relate to this email, but I've
> been needing
> > to
> > > > > email
> > > > > you
> > > > > for quite a while. Could you/someone else please deal
> with all
> > the wood
> > > > > behind the bookcase in the office that was meant to
> build stuff
> > for the
> > > > > printshop? It's taking up a lot of space and has been
> there for
> > a
> > > > > really
> > > > > long time. If it's not going to be built, then get
> rid of the
> > wood
> > > > > however
> > > > > possible. If it is, then move it somewhere where it
> isn't in the
> > way
> > > > > and
> > > > > build it please! Thanks,
> > > > > -Liz%20, speaking as Office Manager wanting to create
> space
