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Re: HTTP Futures

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marc H.)
Wed Nov 30 20:23:19 1994

Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 01:28:58 +0100
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From: "Marc H." <march@thetics.europa.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <www-talk@www0.cern.ch>


+--- On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, David Koblas wrote:
| We are neglecting on form of access control that I think might be
| just as important "parental control".
[...]
| Maybe something like:
|  <CLIENT>
| 	Content-Guidance: {*,violence,sex,...}={specifer}
|  <SERVER>
| 	Content-Guidance: sex=MPAA-R (i.e no male nudity, only simulated sex)
+---

+--- On Wed, 30 Nov 1994, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
| Yet another situation where collaborative filtering can help.  If the MPAA
| had an online presence and a public key to have digital signatures
| verified, then they could go around the net attaching their 'G' Seal of
| Approval on the Barney page, their 'PG' SOAP on the Nancy Drew page, their
| 'R' SOAP on the Oliver Stone page, and their 'X' SOAP on www.playboy.com. 
+

Seems like these schemes would only be workable if an "unrated" page was 
assumed to be unacceptable and was "blocked" (which it sounds like Brian 
intended).  I wouldn't expect the playboy people, for instance, to 
willingly rate their pages unless pressured/forced to do so.  (Perhaps 
that's a bad example, since a corporation is associated with that site.  
I wouldn't expect some individual maintaining a pornographic/erotic web 
site to use MPAA ratings, and pressuring an individual to do so would be 
much more difficult.)

Another solution might be to have a centralized "rating server" (or 
several) which a browser might consult before retrieving any page.  In 
this model an author would not have to agree to be rated.  Such a 
browser, however, would require two connections for each retrieval, one 
to the rating server and one to the origin server.

+ [more from Brian]
| While I personally abhor the thought of prohibiting the flow of
| information, I am pointing out that it could be technologically
| accomplished rather elegantly.  
+---

It's hard to express how abhorrent I find the rating server idea; and I 
don't think the other schemes are much better.  I agree that it could be 
accomplished.  However, if a browser either rejected all unrated pages or 
consulted some central morals committee before retrieving any page, the 
effect on the flow of information would likely be quite drastic.  I 
don't know that any such solution would be "elegant."

</marc>


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