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Re: Inline support for vector files

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Crossley)
Thu Nov 17 21:00:22 1994

Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 02:25:41 +0100
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Reply-To: davidc@erin.gov.au
From: davidc@erin.gov.au (David Crossley)
To: Multiple recipients of list <www-talk@www0.cern.ch>

Stephen Trew <s.trew@qub.ac.uk> said to www-talk:

> I ead Jodi Moline's paper from the 2nd WWW conference, 
> 
> Inline Support for Vector Files: Engineering Dawings on the WWW
> http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/IT94/Proceedings/DDay/moline/moline.html
> 
> How was this paper received at the conference?  This is an issue I would 
> like to see addressed.  In the School of Geosciences at QUB we want to 
> provide maps and GIS information over the Web and support for an inline 
> vectro format is critical.

The paper was delivered by other people from Softsource - the CAD company
proposing Simple Vector Format (SVF) and its incorporation into WWW. The
paper was generally very well received. 

The proposal shows support for in-line vector files which can be zoomed
and panned, layers switched on and off to prevent clutter and mis-use as
you zoom in, regions of layers defined as hotlinks, local actions defined
- all at the client-side.

This is very important for many areas though I too feel that it is critical
for Geographic Information Systems.  We have been building all sorts of
workarounds to imagemap and raster files.

> Jodi mentioned that DXF, the de facto standard, is being looked at but 
> hinted that it does not meet the needs for an inline vector format, and 
> SoftSource intent to create a new vector format meet the needs.
> 
> If you read this list Jodi (you did not give your email address)  why 
> does the standard format, DXF, not meet the needs.  Does the fact that
> many current CAD, GIS and image pckages support DXF not mean we should
> push it as the standard format?

As I understand it, DXF is simply a drawing exchange file and does not
have enough structure to do the job.  I think that it lacks the topology
to have objects such as polygons and, most importantly, it has no way to 
define a region as a hotlink to some URL.

The uproar from the audience was more along the lines of "Why not use
Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM) rather than create yet another format".

> ----------------------------------
> Stephen Trew  <><
> School of Geosciences
> Queen's University of Belfast
> Belfast
> BT7 1NN

There is a newly created discussion list for SVF and there is also
discussion on GeoWeb (serving geographical information through WWW). 
Try these URLs:

 http://www.niiip.org/svf/

 http://wings.buffalo.edu/geoweb

 http://www.softsource.com/softsource/vector.html

I would like to see relevant discussion continue on www-talk to solve
some of the technical issues specific to WWW.  

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