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Re: HTTP built on a database engine

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel J. Kurys)
Thu Nov 17 14:16:19 1994

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 19:42:32 +0100
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From: "Daniel J. Kurys" <djk@linus.mitre.org>
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>>I'm hoping sooner or later database companies realize that httpd servers are
>>really just internet front-ends to public or private databases and start
>>bundling or selling httpd servers that sit directly on top of their
>>technology - not cgi-bin gateways, but an integrated part of the database
>>itself. Anyone doing something like this for Sybase? I've got a
>>shopping list of server dream features that require this...

>I have to say that it sounds like you're making a bad assumption here --
>that a relational database is a good way to store text objects. Certainly
>Oracle is making that argument, but I don't believe it.

>It seems clear to me that information systems need aspects of each --
>relational databases and full-text engines. A database is good for fielded
>resource management, including traditional document management functions.

I have to agree with Nick.  Last year I developed a gateway to a UniSQL
database, to which Verity's "Photo Search Demo" bears many similarities.
A prototype is usually running at:

	<URL:http://abelard.mit.edu/cgi-bin/museum-entrance/>

Unfortunately, it lacked a full-text engine and the usefulness of 
such a feature was quickly obvious.  (Although several people have
been interested in buying the capability from us anyway.)

We are currently developing server technology that integrates database
and full-text engines for searching indexes of both local and remote
data.  The current design DOES use Sybase.  However, it is also cgi-based.
I would be interested in hearing more discussion of "server dream
features" that require a non-cgi approach. What did you have in mind?


Dan Kurys
djk@mitre.org
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