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Re: Minimal Authorization

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen D Crocker)
Sat Aug 13 15:50:31 1994

Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 21:47:47 +0200
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From: Stephen D Crocker <crocker@tis.com>
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Karl,

I hadn't seen the reference to long lived keys before.  That changes
things considerably.  In addition to strong authentication mechanisms,
there has to be quite a lot of other infrastructure to support the
kind of airtight archival that you're suggesting.

I think this is well beyond the scope of the discussion most of this
list is interested in.  The web is the Internet's version of instant
gratification, a 90s kind of thing.  Long lived?  Future?  Lawyers?
Naw.

Steve




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> From:    Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>
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> Date:    Sat, 13 Aug 1994 21:23:48 +0200
> Subject: Re: Minimal Authorization 
> 
> 
> 
>  >>zealot, passwords in the clear are no longer an acceptable risk.  At
>  >>the very least, a challenge-response system is necessary.
> 
> I too appreciate the fact that Steve is listening in.
> 
> What triggered this message is the question:
> 
> 	Do we have any security requirements that require extremely
> 	long lived keys?
> 
> What I'm thinking is whether we need authenticators or signatures or
> whatever that last for ten, twenty, fifty... years
> 
> I'm concerned about the needs of archivists, research folk, lawyers,
> etc.  who will sometime in the distant future need to dig through all
> this stuff that is going to be published.
> 
> Are these real risks or am I being a raving alarmist?
> 
> 		--karl--

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