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Re: Your request to sign off the JAVA-INTEREST list

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cay Horstmann)
Sun Mar 31 21:51:21 1996

Date:         Sun, 31 Mar 1996 11:10:40 -0800
Reply-To: Java Interest <JAVA-INTEREST@JAVASOFT.COM>
From: Cay Horstmann <horstman@JUPITER.SJSU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list JAVA-INTEREST
              <JAVA-INTEREST@JAVASOFT.COM>

Ok, could a real person please do something about this?

There were no instructions how to do send a "REVIEW JAVA-INTEREST" command,
or, more importantly, what to do with the results. Thanks though for the
tip what to do if I don't know how to reply to an email message.

Indeed my mailing address might have been anything matching the pattern
horstman[n]?@*.sjsu.edu, which is unique in our organization. Please remove
any of those occurrences. Since I am getting every message at least twice,
there are probably duplicate entries (or the mailing list software is
completely FUBAR).

Let me also say that I think this mailing list was a stupid idea in the
first place and has gotten to the point of self-destruction. I joined,
reluctantly, when Arthur van Hoff told me in no uncertain terms that the
Java group wasn't about to join the hoi polloi on comp.lang.java--they only
read the mailing list. Clearly a moderated news group is a better
distribution channel for this information.

Cay
horstman@cs.sjsu.edu

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From:   L-Soft list server at JavaSoft (1.8b)[SMTP:LISTSERV@JAVASOFT.COM]
Sent:   Saturday, March 30, 1996 10:23 PM
To:     horstman@jupiter.SJSU.EDU
Subject:        Your request to sign off the JAVA-INTEREST list

Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:23:02

No entry for your horstman@JUPITER.SJSU.EDU address could be found in the
JAVA-INTEREST list at JAVASOFT.COM. Here are a number of possible reasons
why you might still be getting mail from the list:

1. You could be subscribed under a different, but equivalent address. For
instance, if  your e-mail address  as it appears  in the 'From:'  line of
messages coming from you has the  misfortune of depending on the distance
between your  workstation and the  terminal room door, you  were probably
subscribed from  a different  address and, while  your mail  system knows
that the two addresses are equivalent,  LISTSERV has no way to know that.
In this case the only thing you can do, beyond contacting the list owner,
is  to send  a  "REVIEW JAVA-INTEREST"  command to  find  out under  what
address you are subscribed, and try to duplicate it with the help of your
user support people.

2. If you are a BITNET user,  you might be subscribed under your Internet
address and sending  this command via BITNET, or vice  versa. Most BITNET
sites  have  registered their  Internet  addresses  in the  BITNET  nodes
database, BITEARN NODES (the "tag"  containing this information is called
':internet' - if you do not understand  any of this, just bring a copy of
this message to your user support people). Unfortunately, some sites have
still not done that,  and in such cases LISTSERV has  no way to determine
that, for  instance, BITNET  node XYZCOL1  is the  same as  Internet host
VM3.XYZ.EDU. If  you suspect  this might be  your problem,  try resending
your request via both interactive message (SEND under VMS, TELL under VM)
and e-mail.

3. You  might be subscribed under  an equivalent yet different  address -
for  instance, one  with explicit  gatewaying, or  an X.400  address with
different  ordering of  the various  components,  etc. You  could send  a
"REVIEW JAVA-INTEREST"  command and inspect  the list membership  to find
out whether  this is  the case, and  ask the list  owners to  remove that
address from the list.

4. You could be subscribed to  the list under another account, from which
mail is  being automatically forwarded to  your horstman@JUPITER.SJSU.EDU
account. In that case  you should be able to leave  the list by resending
the signoff request from the account in question.

5. You could be subscribed to the list indirectly, via a "redistribution"
list. That is, one  of the subscribers to the LISTSERV list  is in fact a
mailing  list, to  which  you  are yourself  subscribed  (note that  this
"sub-list"  is not  necessarily managed  by LISTSERV  and, in  fact, such
lists are often manually maintained, in  which case the only way to leave
the list is  to contact the person  who maintains it). Since  you are not
directly  subscribed to  JAVA-INTEREST,  the  only way  for  you to  stop
getting the postings is to contact the administrator of this sub-list and
ask him to sign you off.

You should be able to contact the  list owners by simply replying to this
message (if you  do not know how  to reply to a message  in your mailbox,
you  can  send  a  new  message  to  'JAVA-INTEREST-Request@JAVASOFT.COM'
instead).

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mailing list.  In order to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to
listserv@javasoft.com with the command 'signoff JAVA-INTEREST' in
the message body (not in the subject line).

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mailing list.  In order to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to
listserv@javasoft.com with the command 'signoff JAVA-INTEREST' in
the message body (not in the subject line).

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the message body (not in the subject line).

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